very true with Spitz, not for the average household and I feel bad when I see certain houses with them because I know they aren't working their dog enough. the lawn says it all really with the holes and what not.

I'm constantly working with with my husky and always go back and reinforcing what she already knows. it's just fun games now and we can enjoy more relaxed times because we've worked super hard for the first 3 years of her life.

you're right overall too, it's not a luck thing. we've worked very hard together to come to understandings on what's expected of her, and I've learned what her needs are and how she asks for things when she wants them.