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[–] 146 points 1 year ago (29 children)

misdemeanor? so like, murder is illegal, murdering multiple with a truck is kind of legal

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  • [–] 40 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Meanwhile a couple of parents in North Carolina are facing manslaughter charges after they let their kids walk to the grocery store while they guided them over the phone and one of them got hit and killed by a car.

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  • [+] 29 points 1 year ago (3 children)
  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

    I sure hope so, the kid basically ran into traffic. No crosswalk, completely unsupervised.

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  • [+] 4 points 1 year ago (1 child)
  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    Yeah I agree it's fucked up that the parents are in trouble and the driver isn't. The article says the driver is 76... The father probably was jailed mostly for having the wrong skin color.

    I walked to school more blocks than that at a younger age. The article says the state doesn't have laws that specify what age the kids must be supervised at to leave their own home. This happened mere blocks from where they lived.

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  • [–] 50 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    It is equal in legality as throwing one sub at an ICE agent.

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  • [–] 36 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    So, if you actually read the article, it says he claimed that the steering wheel locked up on him, but the NTSB stated that he suffered from severe fatigue. Maricopa county prosecutors said there wasn't enough evidence to press any felonious charges.

    So, at best, this would be a case of manslaughter (which is a felony), but there's no conclusivity on whether it was with malicious intent or premeditated.

    So no, he's not a murderer. He negligently fell asleep at the wheel.

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  • [–] 26 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    If u drive while being impaired (by whatever) ur a piece of shit and if u kill anyone doing that (except like suffering a heart attack or something not foreseeable) ur a murderer in my mind.

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  • As someone who is a master of operating under what should be severe impairment I agree, being awake for 48 just leaves me vaguely slow when I talk. Also folks need to know their fucking limits, I refused to drive while I had food poisoning because I couldn't think and also I didn't want to shit myself in my car.

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  • [–] 25 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Fortunately, the law doesn't operate on what's in your mind.

    Murder implies premeditation. The prosecutor and judge didn't see evidence of premeditation.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    A lot of people use the word "murder" in a colloquial sense and not a strictly legal one. Further some jurisdictions have degrees of murder where other jurisdictions would use manslaughter. I'm assuming the person you responded to meant the lesser charges.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago

    There is no law and order in the US. If you want to diddle kids, just operate a Joint commission accredited troubled teen facility. There are literally zero requirements, and you can sue anyone who questions you into poverty!

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    It doesn't seem to have been done intentionally, so at best it's involuntary manslaughter. They think he may have fallen asleep or something.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Okay so negligent manslaughter.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    It meets the exact spirt of involuntary manslaughter. Where his negligence either through faulty vehicle maintenance like him claiming that his steering wheel locked up or by being too tired and driving a multi ton vehicle that caused the deaths of multiple people. And yet they dropped some bullshit ass charges instead

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    I mean it is not, by any legal definition of the word, murder.

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