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[–] 10 points 1 year ago (15 children)

No, you aren't. Eugenics is population level genetic manipulation. The goal is to create a whole group with certain traits...often regardless of the will of the participants. It is based on a series of policies or laws that are enforced by the state.

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  • [+] -11 points 1 year ago (14 children)

    Sure bro, that's why a random doctor forcibly sterilizing someone they've decided is undesirable doesn't count.

    Oh, wait.

    It does.

    It's also eugenics when you deliberately breed two members hoping to create a child with a specific trait, for example in livestock breeding.

    It turned out you affect the gene pool through individuals, crazy.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago (13 children)

    Umm, yeah...bro. That's when someone ELSE is doing it to you. As in, not your personal decision.

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  • [+] -10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (12 children)

    Point to the part in any definition of eugenics where it says that.

    Clubs like Mensa were created as an eugenicist exercise to get high-IQ individuals to breed. There is no force, there is no punishment for not being in them, there are only individual choices.

    It's still an attempt to alter the human gene pool through selective breeding, positive or negative, personal or systemic.

    Saying "I don't want kids" isn't eugenics.

    Saying "I don't want to risk passing down my depression" is.

    So is "I want to have kids with this person so our children will have trait X"

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (11 children)

    As I said in an earlier comment...if those things count as eugenics, then all personal choices count as eugenics. The only thing that wouldn't, is to accept a purely random outcome with no conditions at all. Meaning, you don't even choose your partner based on looks, or intelligence, or background.

    Any selection based on personal characteristics would be considered eugenics. And that's simply ridiculous.

    I chose my wife because I thought she would make a good mother. She was kind, patient and gentle, with a great sense of humor. All qualities I admire and respect. Do I want my child to have those qualities, as well? Sure. Is that eugenics? No. It's just selection based on the attributes you consider favorable.

    If you want what's "best for your children"...you choose your partners carefully. You aren't engineering future populations. You're just being selective about who you choose to share yours with.

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  • [–] -4 points 1 year ago* (10 children)

    Yep. And that's called eugenics, you fuckwit liberal that can't handle that they believe in the bad thing.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

    I think I understand where you're coming from, but also doesn't this last reply fit the original meme? This reply telling somebody to sterilise themselves, aka engage in "personal eugenics", fits the reply tweet pictured in the OP, and fits the sentiment critiqued in the meme.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    Who says I disagree with the right to personal eugenics? Or termination for that matter.

    It just shouldn't be a result of state actors, or apply to people beyond themselves.

    OP shooting themselves in the nuts is a demonstrable social good, but they don't have the right to do it to themselves or others, like in the meme.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Which apparently means the same as "I will sterilize you" according to your logic.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago* (3 children)

    I can see how someone so fucking stupid they didn't follow a single, extremely obvious point or knows how words work could think that.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

    Says the guy that literally doesn't understand the difference between "eugenics" and "natural selection".

    You are comedy gold, my friend. Dunning and Krueger would have loved to study you.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Lmao, the natural selection of deciding not to pass on your genes for ableist reasoning.

    You're just straight up never going to have an opinion worth hearing, gl with the rest of your life, don't be afraid to shoot your own nuts off.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    What are you even talking about with the, "ableist reasoning"?

    And I really do have to reiterate...please, read a book. If you want to sound like you know what you're talking about, it helps if you actually understand the words you are using. You obviously have no idea what "eugenics" or "natural selection" even mean.

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