▲ 516 ▼ AOL will end dial-up internet service in September, 34 years after it's debut — AOL Shield Browser and AOL Dialer software will be shuttered on the same day (www.tomshardware.com) submitted 1 year ago by fne8w2ah@lemmy.world to c/technology@lemmy.world 91 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] lnxtx@feddit.nl 11 points 1 year ago (8 children) Any alternatives to the Starlink? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] HakFoo@lemmy.sdf.org 10 points 1 year ago (5 children) The other satellite players (Hughesnet, Viasat), the fixed 5G boxes (although places sufficiently rural to seriously consider dialup may not have 5G), probably some smaller boutique dialup ISPs. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 year ago (3 children) I read months ago that Amazon was stepping into the game but I haven't heard anything since then. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 year ago (2 children) What we really need to compete against Starlink's network full of small satellites threatening a Kessler syndrome incident is a second network full of small satellites threatening s Kessler syndrome incident. And a third and a fourth. Or put fiber everywhere. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] HBK@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) Starlink satellites are in low Earth orbit. They could still cause Kessler syndrome, but aren't as much of a concern as higher orbits. Here are some quotes regarding this from and Aerospace America article Regarding satellite proliferation, while there are many more satellites, the company responsible for most of them, SpaceX, places its Starlink satellites in a low orbit so they can naturally deorbit relatively soon — within five or six years, per SpaceX — if they fail. At around 400 kilometers and into the 500-km realm — home to ISS and the SpaceX Starlink satellites among others — atmospheric drag plays a major role. Dead satellites and debris usually slow and burn up in the atmosphere in just a few years. This natural cleansing process accelerates when the sun becomes more active and solar coronal mass ejections strike Earth and cause the atmosphere to swell. “In those altitudes, we can probably do a lot and we will be forgiven,” Linares says. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 year ago That's just "the worst possible consequences won't happen". The danger at higher orbits is that things wouldn't come down, and we couldn't safely launch rockets past that orbit. That wouldn't happen here, but destroying everything in LEO would still be pretty bad. Astronauts would likely die. permalink fedilink source parent [–] QuarterSwede@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* Currently, no one compares to Starlink, unfortunately. It’s really that much better. Source: FiL has been on the beta since the first constellation went up. permalink fedilink source parent [–] sylver_dragon@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago While not the same thing, cellular internet is not bad these days. I've been on T-Mobile's internet connection for a couple years and other than CGNAT making self-hosting harder, it's been pretty solid. This is in a rural area where we got to choose between Cable or go get fucked for high speed internet for a long time. permalink fedilink source parent [–] cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 year ago Kuiper and Guowang are currently launching satellites. It will probably be a few years before they are operational though. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] HakFoo@lemmy.sdf.org 10 points 1 year ago (5 children) The other satellite players (Hughesnet, Viasat), the fixed 5G boxes (although places sufficiently rural to seriously consider dialup may not have 5G), probably some smaller boutique dialup ISPs. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 year ago (3 children) I read months ago that Amazon was stepping into the game but I haven't heard anything since then. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 year ago (2 children) What we really need to compete against Starlink's network full of small satellites threatening a Kessler syndrome incident is a second network full of small satellites threatening s Kessler syndrome incident. And a third and a fourth. Or put fiber everywhere. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] HBK@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) Starlink satellites are in low Earth orbit. They could still cause Kessler syndrome, but aren't as much of a concern as higher orbits. Here are some quotes regarding this from and Aerospace America article Regarding satellite proliferation, while there are many more satellites, the company responsible for most of them, SpaceX, places its Starlink satellites in a low orbit so they can naturally deorbit relatively soon — within five or six years, per SpaceX — if they fail. At around 400 kilometers and into the 500-km realm — home to ISS and the SpaceX Starlink satellites among others — atmospheric drag plays a major role. Dead satellites and debris usually slow and burn up in the atmosphere in just a few years. This natural cleansing process accelerates when the sun becomes more active and solar coronal mass ejections strike Earth and cause the atmosphere to swell. “In those altitudes, we can probably do a lot and we will be forgiven,” Linares says. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 year ago That's just "the worst possible consequences won't happen". The danger at higher orbits is that things wouldn't come down, and we couldn't safely launch rockets past that orbit. That wouldn't happen here, but destroying everything in LEO would still be pretty bad. Astronauts would likely die. permalink fedilink source parent [–] QuarterSwede@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* Currently, no one compares to Starlink, unfortunately. It’s really that much better. Source: FiL has been on the beta since the first constellation went up. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 year ago (3 children) I read months ago that Amazon was stepping into the game but I haven't heard anything since then. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 year ago (2 children) What we really need to compete against Starlink's network full of small satellites threatening a Kessler syndrome incident is a second network full of small satellites threatening s Kessler syndrome incident. And a third and a fourth. Or put fiber everywhere. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] HBK@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) Starlink satellites are in low Earth orbit. They could still cause Kessler syndrome, but aren't as much of a concern as higher orbits. Here are some quotes regarding this from and Aerospace America article Regarding satellite proliferation, while there are many more satellites, the company responsible for most of them, SpaceX, places its Starlink satellites in a low orbit so they can naturally deorbit relatively soon — within five or six years, per SpaceX — if they fail. At around 400 kilometers and into the 500-km realm — home to ISS and the SpaceX Starlink satellites among others — atmospheric drag plays a major role. Dead satellites and debris usually slow and burn up in the atmosphere in just a few years. This natural cleansing process accelerates when the sun becomes more active and solar coronal mass ejections strike Earth and cause the atmosphere to swell. “In those altitudes, we can probably do a lot and we will be forgiven,” Linares says. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 year ago That's just "the worst possible consequences won't happen". The danger at higher orbits is that things wouldn't come down, and we couldn't safely launch rockets past that orbit. That wouldn't happen here, but destroying everything in LEO would still be pretty bad. Astronauts would likely die. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 year ago (2 children) What we really need to compete against Starlink's network full of small satellites threatening a Kessler syndrome incident is a second network full of small satellites threatening s Kessler syndrome incident. And a third and a fourth. Or put fiber everywhere. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] HBK@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) Starlink satellites are in low Earth orbit. They could still cause Kessler syndrome, but aren't as much of a concern as higher orbits. Here are some quotes regarding this from and Aerospace America article Regarding satellite proliferation, while there are many more satellites, the company responsible for most of them, SpaceX, places its Starlink satellites in a low orbit so they can naturally deorbit relatively soon — within five or six years, per SpaceX — if they fail. At around 400 kilometers and into the 500-km realm — home to ISS and the SpaceX Starlink satellites among others — atmospheric drag plays a major role. Dead satellites and debris usually slow and burn up in the atmosphere in just a few years. This natural cleansing process accelerates when the sun becomes more active and solar coronal mass ejections strike Earth and cause the atmosphere to swell. “In those altitudes, we can probably do a lot and we will be forgiven,” Linares says. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 year ago That's just "the worst possible consequences won't happen". The danger at higher orbits is that things wouldn't come down, and we couldn't safely launch rockets past that orbit. That wouldn't happen here, but destroying everything in LEO would still be pretty bad. Astronauts would likely die. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] HBK@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) Starlink satellites are in low Earth orbit. They could still cause Kessler syndrome, but aren't as much of a concern as higher orbits. Here are some quotes regarding this from and Aerospace America article Regarding satellite proliferation, while there are many more satellites, the company responsible for most of them, SpaceX, places its Starlink satellites in a low orbit so they can naturally deorbit relatively soon — within five or six years, per SpaceX — if they fail. At around 400 kilometers and into the 500-km realm — home to ISS and the SpaceX Starlink satellites among others — atmospheric drag plays a major role. Dead satellites and debris usually slow and burn up in the atmosphere in just a few years. This natural cleansing process accelerates when the sun becomes more active and solar coronal mass ejections strike Earth and cause the atmosphere to swell. “In those altitudes, we can probably do a lot and we will be forgiven,” Linares says. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 year ago That's just "the worst possible consequences won't happen". The danger at higher orbits is that things wouldn't come down, and we couldn't safely launch rockets past that orbit. That wouldn't happen here, but destroying everything in LEO would still be pretty bad. Astronauts would likely die. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 year ago That's just "the worst possible consequences won't happen". The danger at higher orbits is that things wouldn't come down, and we couldn't safely launch rockets past that orbit. That wouldn't happen here, but destroying everything in LEO would still be pretty bad. Astronauts would likely die. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] QuarterSwede@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* Currently, no one compares to Starlink, unfortunately. It’s really that much better. Source: FiL has been on the beta since the first constellation went up. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] sylver_dragon@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago While not the same thing, cellular internet is not bad these days. I've been on T-Mobile's internet connection for a couple years and other than CGNAT making self-hosting harder, it's been pretty solid. This is in a rural area where we got to choose between Cable or go get fucked for high speed internet for a long time. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 year ago Kuiper and Guowang are currently launching satellites. It will probably be a few years before they are operational though. permalink fedilink source parent