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[+] 13 points 1 year ago (6 children)
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    The Poles asked for their troops back when they were forming a USSR-based army and were told that thousands had mysteriously escaped. Then when asked for an official investigation, the Soviets broke ties with the Polish government in exile and made their own.

    The Soviets themselves later admitted it was the NKVD. Are you defending the USSR from its own slander?

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  • [+] 11 points 1 year ago (5 children)
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    Thanks for your effortposting BTW. I might not agree with your every take but it's good work regardless!

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  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Per our other conversation, the Soviets were trading for German finished goods. Why would you not expect to find German goods here??

    And again, the Soviets themselves admitted to it. Why are you even discussing forgeries?

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  • [+] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)
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    German-USSR trade was still ongoing in 1941. As part of that trade they did gain access to samples of German artillery, tanks and more. German companies were also known to export arms (in violation of the Versailles treaty) well before WWII. And even if you deny that, there were dozens of countries manufacturing arms and ammo in the German caliber because, get this, German guns were well designed!

    Dismissing all evidence that could put Soviets in a bad light, even when it's internal. Truly you are a Communist at heart.

    So let's put all that aside: capturing thousands of POWs and having them end up massacred in a ditch is acceptable? There's no fault attributable to them for having this happen to people in their control and under their protection?

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  • [+] 6 points 1 year ago (1 child)
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    1940 is the date Goebbels reported

    All of these were verified by the Red Cross and there are stacks of documents giving evidence and testimony to the contrary. But yes, I suppose if you throw out everything you don't like then any argument will get flimsy. Certainly we don't get "genuine analysis" as you put it.

    Further, again, the Soviet weaponry did not fire German ammunition.

    The NKVD was a police force, they were under no compulsion to use military issue weapons. There are other documented instances of them using foreign weapons, it's not out of the ordinary.

    This whole weapon discussion is circumstantial evidence at best, there are plenty of ways it could have happened. And of course Goebbels was eager to report it, it's very well documented in his own records that he was excited about the find and the bad PR it would give the Soviets. The fact that you're dismissing the general consensus that the international community has come to after decades of investigation just to maintain your own narrative is pretty disappointing.

    America rightly draws criticism for their strong arm enforcement of "democratic values" through occupation, but you see no parallel to the USSR enforcing "Soviet values" through the same occupation strategy. You've got some massive blinders on.

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