▲ 272 ▼ Why Did National Geographic Disappear Its Own Documentary About A Queer Climate Scientist? (defector.com) submitted 1 year ago by kalkulat@lemmy.world to c/science@lemmy.world 37 comments fedilink hide all child comments Epilogue: After that film was finished, the team went on to drill the deepest ice core ever drilled in the Americas https://www.ualberta.ca/en/folio/2025/05/deepest-ice-core-in-the-americas-drilled-in-canadian-arctic.html
[+] individual@toast.ooo -11 points 1 year ago (20 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 20 child comments replies: [–] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 1 year ago (1 child) Absolutely nothing. But it seems like for the alt right, being queer is enough to disqualify your credentials and even your personhood. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) [–] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 38 points 1 year ago (1 child) Both are against the Republican cult's beliefs. Science in general, but especially climate science. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) [–] PunnyName@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (2 children) Representation matters in all areas of life. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] individual@toast.ooo -6 points 1 year ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 year ago Yes but queers can't be seen, and climate scientists were never this admin's favorite. permalink fedilink source parent [–] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 year ago Nothing anymore, if you want to stay out of the camps. permalink fedilink source parent [–] meyotch@slrpnk.net 6 points 1 year ago (8 children) A queer person did some excellent climate science, that’s how the two subjects relate. If you ignore either aspect of the story, well, it isn’t the full story. Did you know that queer people have a right to exist and that questioning the relevance of their queerness to their work is essentially denying their humanity? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] ShrimpCurler@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 year ago* I mean, you'll never really get the full story of anything if it requiers every adjacent detail, there's just too much detail in any event to document it all. So, I think it's more that being queer is an important part of this story because queer people have been marginalised. Which means it's important that they have good representation and their achievements are celebrated. permalink fedilink source parent [+] individual@toast.ooo 2 points 1 year ago (6 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] meyotch@slrpnk.net 4 points 1 year ago (5 children) Yes. Would one question the relevance of a biography that mentioned that an accomplished straight male scientist was a ‘family man’ or that a scientist was also a married woman with children? Questioning the validity of mentioning that a scientist is queer is identical to the attitude that queer people are fine as long as they are invisible. It was a biography, biographies mention biographical details. Yet when that detail is ‘queer’, people feel empowered to complain it was even mentioned. I’m not on the defensive here. I intend to come across as offensive. You tell US exactly why mentioning that a person is queer is not relevant in a biographical sketch. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [+] individual@toast.ooo -4 points 1 year ago (4 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] meyotch@slrpnk.net 4 points 1 year ago (3 children) Ok, you are a sealion, cool, good to know. Did you know you can mention multiple facts about a person in a biography and they are all valid and mentionable? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Especially when that particular part of their identity is under attack. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] meyotch@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 year ago I know that my engagement in this exercise will not change their opinion. I am engaged because this shit is exhausting and it is exactly the thing to challenge at this moment. I think it’s time to start wearing these, before they become mandatory again. pink triangles permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) [–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Wow you are a shit person aren't you? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply)
[–] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 1 year ago (1 child) Absolutely nothing. But it seems like for the alt right, being queer is enough to disqualify your credentials and even your personhood. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply)
[–] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 38 points 1 year ago (1 child) Both are against the Republican cult's beliefs. Science in general, but especially climate science. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply)
[–] PunnyName@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (2 children) Representation matters in all areas of life. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] individual@toast.ooo -6 points 1 year ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 year ago Yes but queers can't be seen, and climate scientists were never this admin's favorite. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] individual@toast.ooo -6 points 1 year ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 year ago Yes but queers can't be seen, and climate scientists were never this admin's favorite. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 year ago Yes but queers can't be seen, and climate scientists were never this admin's favorite. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 year ago Nothing anymore, if you want to stay out of the camps. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] meyotch@slrpnk.net 6 points 1 year ago (8 children) A queer person did some excellent climate science, that’s how the two subjects relate. If you ignore either aspect of the story, well, it isn’t the full story. Did you know that queer people have a right to exist and that questioning the relevance of their queerness to their work is essentially denying their humanity? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] ShrimpCurler@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 year ago* I mean, you'll never really get the full story of anything if it requiers every adjacent detail, there's just too much detail in any event to document it all. So, I think it's more that being queer is an important part of this story because queer people have been marginalised. Which means it's important that they have good representation and their achievements are celebrated. permalink fedilink source parent [+] individual@toast.ooo 2 points 1 year ago (6 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] meyotch@slrpnk.net 4 points 1 year ago (5 children) Yes. Would one question the relevance of a biography that mentioned that an accomplished straight male scientist was a ‘family man’ or that a scientist was also a married woman with children? Questioning the validity of mentioning that a scientist is queer is identical to the attitude that queer people are fine as long as they are invisible. It was a biography, biographies mention biographical details. Yet when that detail is ‘queer’, people feel empowered to complain it was even mentioned. I’m not on the defensive here. I intend to come across as offensive. You tell US exactly why mentioning that a person is queer is not relevant in a biographical sketch. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [+] individual@toast.ooo -4 points 1 year ago (4 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] meyotch@slrpnk.net 4 points 1 year ago (3 children) Ok, you are a sealion, cool, good to know. Did you know you can mention multiple facts about a person in a biography and they are all valid and mentionable? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Especially when that particular part of their identity is under attack. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] meyotch@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 year ago I know that my engagement in this exercise will not change their opinion. I am engaged because this shit is exhausting and it is exactly the thing to challenge at this moment. I think it’s time to start wearing these, before they become mandatory again. pink triangles permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply)
[–] ShrimpCurler@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 year ago* I mean, you'll never really get the full story of anything if it requiers every adjacent detail, there's just too much detail in any event to document it all. So, I think it's more that being queer is an important part of this story because queer people have been marginalised. Which means it's important that they have good representation and their achievements are celebrated. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] individual@toast.ooo 2 points 1 year ago (6 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] meyotch@slrpnk.net 4 points 1 year ago (5 children) Yes. Would one question the relevance of a biography that mentioned that an accomplished straight male scientist was a ‘family man’ or that a scientist was also a married woman with children? Questioning the validity of mentioning that a scientist is queer is identical to the attitude that queer people are fine as long as they are invisible. It was a biography, biographies mention biographical details. Yet when that detail is ‘queer’, people feel empowered to complain it was even mentioned. I’m not on the defensive here. I intend to come across as offensive. You tell US exactly why mentioning that a person is queer is not relevant in a biographical sketch. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [+] individual@toast.ooo -4 points 1 year ago (4 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] meyotch@slrpnk.net 4 points 1 year ago (3 children) Ok, you are a sealion, cool, good to know. Did you know you can mention multiple facts about a person in a biography and they are all valid and mentionable? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Especially when that particular part of their identity is under attack. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] meyotch@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 year ago I know that my engagement in this exercise will not change their opinion. I am engaged because this shit is exhausting and it is exactly the thing to challenge at this moment. I think it’s time to start wearing these, before they become mandatory again. pink triangles permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply)
[–] meyotch@slrpnk.net 4 points 1 year ago (5 children) Yes. Would one question the relevance of a biography that mentioned that an accomplished straight male scientist was a ‘family man’ or that a scientist was also a married woman with children? Questioning the validity of mentioning that a scientist is queer is identical to the attitude that queer people are fine as long as they are invisible. It was a biography, biographies mention biographical details. Yet when that detail is ‘queer’, people feel empowered to complain it was even mentioned. I’m not on the defensive here. I intend to come across as offensive. You tell US exactly why mentioning that a person is queer is not relevant in a biographical sketch. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [+] individual@toast.ooo -4 points 1 year ago (4 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] meyotch@slrpnk.net 4 points 1 year ago (3 children) Ok, you are a sealion, cool, good to know. Did you know you can mention multiple facts about a person in a biography and they are all valid and mentionable? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Especially when that particular part of their identity is under attack. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] meyotch@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 year ago I know that my engagement in this exercise will not change their opinion. I am engaged because this shit is exhausting and it is exactly the thing to challenge at this moment. I think it’s time to start wearing these, before they become mandatory again. pink triangles permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply)
[+] individual@toast.ooo -4 points 1 year ago (4 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] meyotch@slrpnk.net 4 points 1 year ago (3 children) Ok, you are a sealion, cool, good to know. Did you know you can mention multiple facts about a person in a biography and they are all valid and mentionable? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Especially when that particular part of their identity is under attack. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] meyotch@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 year ago I know that my engagement in this exercise will not change their opinion. I am engaged because this shit is exhausting and it is exactly the thing to challenge at this moment. I think it’s time to start wearing these, before they become mandatory again. pink triangles permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply)
[–] meyotch@slrpnk.net 4 points 1 year ago (3 children) Ok, you are a sealion, cool, good to know. Did you know you can mention multiple facts about a person in a biography and they are all valid and mentionable? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Especially when that particular part of their identity is under attack. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] meyotch@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 year ago I know that my engagement in this exercise will not change their opinion. I am engaged because this shit is exhausting and it is exactly the thing to challenge at this moment. I think it’s time to start wearing these, before they become mandatory again. pink triangles permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply)
[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Especially when that particular part of their identity is under attack. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] meyotch@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 year ago I know that my engagement in this exercise will not change their opinion. I am engaged because this shit is exhausting and it is exactly the thing to challenge at this moment. I think it’s time to start wearing these, before they become mandatory again. pink triangles permalink fedilink source parent
[–] meyotch@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 year ago I know that my engagement in this exercise will not change their opinion. I am engaged because this shit is exhausting and it is exactly the thing to challenge at this moment. I think it’s time to start wearing these, before they become mandatory again. pink triangles permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Wow you are a shit person aren't you? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply)