Muaddib comments on Israel has committed such vast sins in the name of the Jewish people that they might all have to convert to Christianity and sacrifice Jesus in order to cleanse it

Israel has committed such vast sins in the name of the Jewish people that they might all have to convert to Christianity and sacrifice Jesus in order to cleanse it (sopuli.xyz)

submitted 1 year ago by Muaddib@sopuli.xyz to c/showerthoughts@sh.itjust.works

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The whole point of Jesus is that he's a blood sacrifice to redeem people's sins. He's an infinitely good being, so his sacrifice has infinite value. The idea is that anyone who accepts Jesus into their heart can sacrifice him atemporally and get their sins redeemed.

Netanyahu seems to be attempting a genocide of the Jewish people by forcing them all to worship Jesus, by committing crimes in their name of a magnitude that perhaps no earthly ritual can repent.

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[–] Muaddib@sopuli.xyz [S] 2 points 1 year ago (15 children)

Well they can convert to the Norse faith and die in battle instead, but I feel that's going to put even more distance between them and their cultural heritage, so same effect

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[+] SonOfAntenora@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (14 children)

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[–] Muaddib@sopuli.xyz [S] 2 points 1 year ago (13 children)

Well I guess it depends on whether Israel's actions do actually represent the Jewish people. Netanyahu says they do, but I guess it's Elohim's choice in the end when it comes to assigning sin. Here's hoping they don't.

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[–] dnick@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago (12 children)

Genocide isn't a sin you have to repent for, it's more along the lines of God's will than a sin. Heck, God specifically directed people to do it multiple times in the old testament.

Now if they condoned mass 'wearing of garments sewn from two dissimilar fabrics'....that's where they need someone to die to atone for their sins.

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[–] Muaddib@sopuli.xyz [S] -1 points 1 year ago (11 children)

Thou shalt not murder.

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[–] TheLeadenSea@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

Except when God tells you to kill every Amoleki man, woman, child, and animal.

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[–] Muaddib@sopuli.xyz [S] -1 points 1 year ago

Well Samuel is a fuckin liar

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[–] dnick@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago (8 children)

'Murder' doesn't mean 'kill'. Self defense isn't murder, accidentally causing sometimes death isn't murder, obeying God's will isn't murder. If God determines morality, there is nothing that can't be made moral by defining it as his will.

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[–] Muaddib@sopuli.xyz [S] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)

Elohim doesn't want the modern Palestinians dead. How many Jewish prophets have you seen in the last 500 years? None, because Elohim doesn't want any deaths right now.

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[–] dnick@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago (6 children)

How do you know what he wants any better than the people he actually tells to do things? He may be getting exactly as many deaths as he wants, or not enough, or to many... Why do you think you, out of all people, would be the one who knows God's mind?

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[–] Muaddib@sopuli.xyz [S] 1 point 1 year ago (5 children)

Because the people committing genocide don't have any prophets telling them to do it.

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[–] dnick@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago (4 children)

Why would they need a prophet to tell them? And if they did, how do you know they don't have them? Do you think good needs to make a prophecy evident to you specifically for some reason?

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[–] Muaddib@sopuli.xyz [S] 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Prophets deliver messages from Elohim. And if they had one, they'd be bragging about it. Why let people believe Elohim doesn't want the genocide?

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[–] dnick@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

What difference does it make to you? God doesn't have to run his plans through you somehow. They brag if he wants them to brag, if he wants people to believe he condones it, he'll do it one way, if he doesn't he'll do it a different way. Why are you so arrogant as to think it has to make sense to you in order to be one way vs another?

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[–] Muaddib@sopuli.xyz [S] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

I know what Elohim wants because he told Moses to write it down on a stone tablet.

Thou shalt not murder.

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[–] dnick@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago

You know what he told one prophet. He doesn't have to do it any way in particular.

And he said thou shall not murder, but didn't define what murder is. He has commanded genocide and other killings in his name, in addition to rules requiring stoning sinners to death.... Murder is obvious a fluid term and he can define it as he wishes.

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