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[–] 8 points 21 hours ago (1 child)

Bingo. I lost count of how many times I had to explain to a tankie that the PRC isn't even communist, and then they double down on trying to feed me some bullshit about how the workers supposedly own the state (because the monoparty happens to call itself communist). Like gtfo no the fuck they don't, that's communism in name only.

There's never once in history been a truly communist society, unless you count early Byzantine monasteries, medieval Dithmarschen, or perhaps the ninja communes in Muromachi-era Japan (namely, the Kōka ikki and Iga ikki). Those are literally the closest things to actual communism that have ever existed, at least in recorded history.

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  • [–] 1 point 12 hours ago

    from what i heard, cold war era slovenia got somewhat close. they were technically in the east bloc, but moscow had enough problems with yugoslavia as-is to micromanage them, so they could implement some common sense policies such as letting a factory fail if it doesn't work and just doing something else instead, without the common capitalist failings of letting some rich guy own the whole thing or making the bankruptcy the workers' problem. i haven't looked into it too deeply, so i expect their system was still imperfect in ways i don't really know about, but afaik they were rather prosperous for a soviet-allied state.

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