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[–] 1 point 8 hours ago (3 children)

At a certain point, things turn into a war where it's impossible to go ask politely to turn themselves in.

If you 'hang out' with a group that's at war with the US, and not in your 'posting memes' sense but in the kinda more serious 'multiple bomb attacks' sense, yeah then you run the risk of not getting the full judicial process

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  • [–] 11 points 6 hours ago

    Gah, I keep forgetting how hard abstract thinking is. In more concrete terms: President Obama accused Anwar al-Awlaki of being affiliated with al-Qaeda. We don't actually know if that was true. The administration never had to prove it in court; it just killed him.

    The reason that we have due process of law, and courts, is to protect the innocent. Forget memes, that was just an example. Under the precedent set by Obama, the President can convict you of any crime just by saying so. You and I could be affiliated with al-Qaeda, and threaten national security. Period. Don't bother to deny it, you are a terrorist, and there's nobody and no process to hear your denial. No lawyers, no court, no appeals. If the President said so, so it is.

    And that's dangerous.

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  • [–] 10 points 6 hours ago

    Would you be in favor of the reverse? Other countries coming to the US and just fucking bombing your house because your an American and maybe you went on a date with a soldier one time? It's pretty easy to make this argument when you have the biggest gun.

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