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What happened here? (sh.itjust.works)
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This was the top post when I checked Lemmy this morning.. Mod commented to mark the post NSFW, even though it wasn't NSFW as far as I could tell. Post was locked and had a ton of deleted comments.

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[–] [S] 17 points 23 hours ago (19 children)

Thanks, looks like the mod got in an argument with people about the word "retarded" being a slur, locked the post and deleted all their comments.

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  • [–] -4 points 21 hours ago (17 children)

    I always found the "slur" argument to be stupid, by definition every insult is a slur.

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  • [–] 14 points 20 hours ago (14 children)

    The issue is that "retarded" is considered an ableist slur though, like the n-word is a racist slur.

    Tap for overthinking tangential thoughtsWhile the Merriam Webster lists slur and insults as synonyms, I observe slur to be used describing insults based on a terminology degrading other people than the target of the insult by using a derogatory term towards these people as an insult. So retard would be a slur (and an insult) while asshole would be an insult without being a slur.

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  • [–] 5 points 13 hours ago (5 children)

    You also run into the euphemism treadmill.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 hours ago (4 children)

    The what now?

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  • [–] -2 points 5 hours ago (3 children)
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  • [–] 2 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

    Nope. I asked you, because you brought it up in a discussion. Don't be an impolite, self-disqualifying jerk, please.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 hours ago

    The euphemism treadmill, as far as I understand, goes like this;

    1. Science comes up with a term for something or some one.
    2. People start to use that term as a slur.
    3. Science comes up with a new term because the old term has been tainted.
    4. People add the new term to the list of slurs. 3 Science faithfully obliges by thinking up a new term. Surely, no one will turn this into a slur!
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  • [–] -2 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

    The fact that you spelled one out and not the other means there is clearly one of them that's worse.

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  • [–] -4 points 13 hours ago (4 children)

    And the places that claim to be anti-slur are actually only against some of them. I have yet to see ban "hick" or "hillbilly" or "nazi" or "pagan". The metaphor filled english language is filled with slurs.

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  • [–] 8 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (3 children)

    Nazi and pagan aren't slurs. People self-identify as both due to accepting their ideologies.

    You might be confused because people say "nazi" as if it were a slur due to nazis being reprehensible.

    Pagans are alright though.

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  • [–] -1 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

    Pagan started as slur for non-catholics. And saying Nazi isnt a slur because there are real nazis makes no sense. All slurs refer to real demographics of people.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 hours ago* (1 child)

    Pagans are referenced in the bible, long before Catholics existed. Don't say nonsense.

    Do you think that Catholic is a slur? Is any descriptive word that someone might not agree with also a slur?

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  • [–] 2 points 11 hours ago (1 child)

    That's because you're not thinking about everyone else. The question is what message you're sending to the listeners.

    If you choose a word (like "retard") which is discriminatory, you're showing your hate for the minority group, and not just for the other person. And that has an effect on the community at large. Maybe they don't want to be surrounded by bigots. Maybe they think that's shit.

    So, if you're gonna have a flame war, pick negative and non-discriminatory words like "jerk" or "fuckface". Or don't, and get banned or blocked, if the mod feels like it. Either way.

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