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Hot fridges, a fake nuclear alert and a $6bn heist: are we in the foothills of a hacking epidemic? (www.theguardian.com)
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[–] 4 points 12 hours ago (4 children)

There are literally thousands of water infrastructure facilities that are on Shodan now. I take your meaning, but it's a very bad thing.

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  • [–] 0 points 12 hours ago (3 children)

    Exactly my point. Corruption, stupidity, and complacency allowed that to happen despite experts warning for years it was a terrible idea. This isn't some new threat, the only 'new' part of it is democratization of otherwise arcane knowledge. This is like getting mad that a thermite recipe is being passed around. Yeah, some people will do bad things with it, but generally anything that needs to be secure should be built to be secure against it.

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  • [–] 2 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

    That's not exactly accurate. The problem is that everything in infrastructure was working just fine, and so they figured they could make it more efficient by reducing the staff. And to do that, they put everything online, so it was controllable by fewer people. And they kept doing that year after year. The funding went down and down and down, and there are literal, uh, literal policies that keep them from switching to better stuff. So it's much more complex than the way you draw it.

    For example, US water infrastructure would need $2.1 trillion or something around that amount to actually become current and fully repaired.

    Where exactly would that come from? It's not an easy answer. It's a much more complex problem. That's all I'm saying.

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  • [–] -1 points 11 hours ago

    Where exactly would that come from?

    Well we could start by nationalizing water services so the inefficiencies that are inherent to monopolistic capitalist entities could be eliminated, drastically reducing costs. And we could pay for it over time with some sort of fee... one that might target those that have hoarded over 98% of all wealth produced over the last 50 years which should have gone into infrastructure maintenance and upgrades. We might even, if we're really clever, directly seize the wealth of the companies that sold these solutions to these water companies given they've compromised national security and public health.

    That all would drastically reduce the inflated $2.1 Trillion number which isn't the actual cost, it is the price for private contractors to do it for the government, to something you could reasonably pay for with the wealth already accumulated or that could be accumulated by actually fairly taxing those that have actively harmed society.

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