Im looking for a first car for about 3500€ which can hopefully last a few years daily commuting During my apprenticeship

Now, I come from a Toyota family, since they are reliable af in the engine Department, even if they (at least the yaris and prius from the 00s) drive pretty badly

But the aygos sold here for that price have extremely high mileage (as in 160k+), and even if they have been treated for Rust, which they have probably not knowing the people who drive a 2006 aygo base model without aircon), it tends to be very noticeable on the inside of the car and all the nice to have stuff

Now, I've been looking at the VW golf 3 door from about 03, they go for about 2800€ Max for like 100k, but from what I've heard VW, Audi and the likes tend to die around 100k, but they are just so great in every other aspect

So now I'm looking for comments from the car gods.

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[–] 2 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 child)

even if they (at least the yaris and prius from the 00s) drive pretty badly

For a first car at your budget, this should be the least of your concerns. A Yaris or Aygo (or even the Aygo's Peugeot/Citroen siblings) are perfect first cars. You are not going to get any performance-type vehicle with what you can afford right now, so this should be the last thing you prioritize. If you really want some semblance of performance, find a Peugeot 206 or something.

But the aygos sold here for that price have extremely high mileage (as in 160k+)

How old are you? Any modern-ish car made in the last 20-30 YEARS should be able to achieve 200k miles at the minimum with proper maintenance. Just make sure the MOT is up to date, not falsified by a shitty shop, and you should be fine.

Case in point: my wife's 2015 Toyota Highlander with 128k miles (206k km) and still drives like new.

Another example: my 2008 Toyota Sienna with 278k miles (447k km). While it's not the prettiest with patchwork paint from sun damage and parking lots, mechanically it's damn near perfect with not a speck of rust.

And finally.... laughs in a very rusty 487k miles (784k km)

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  • [–] 1 point 22 minutes ago* (last edited 17 minutes ago)

    Out of curiosity, what tires are you running on your sienna. I'm assuming those are 16" rims. I put zenna sport lines on my Sienna. They're okay but despite being the correct load rating, I don't trust them. Tempted to go to a light truck tire as ours is also pulls double duty as a work van.

    Edit: idk if they live in a city or not because accounting for extended service intervals, some vehicles may end up getting ill maintained.

    Like say someone buys a car and the oil service intervals is 20k km, they don't reach that mileage but they've had it a few years. They won't change the oil. Stuff like that. Lots of stop start cycles but not much heat gets into the oil so milky oil and the like.

    20k km is easily doable for me but my commute is mainly highway.

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