deathmetaldawgy comments on yearly reminder rule

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[–] agent_nycto@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (5 children)

says why they are the same but implies there are differences

Hey how are these similarities showing they are different?

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[–] deathmetaldawgy@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Capitalist, anti union party is still more similar than they are different. Celebrate all you want but the American left is not even halfway done with this battle, and some of you are acting like it is.

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[–] agent_nycto@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I await with anticipation to see what you accomplish! Can't wait!

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[–] deathmetaldawgy@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 days ago (2 children)

I mean I’m never going to personally be in public office, if that’s what you mean. And sorry if this comes off as mean and you’re being genuine, but unless you live where I do you probably won’t see the accomplishments stemming from myself or any organization I’m involved with. I mean, maybe if you’re a local organizer or artist or you’re homeless or something.

If you are DSA, then unironically I do look forward to seeing your party pop up into my area, because DSA would be infinitely more palatable to work with than mainstream dems. But DSA aren’t here so I don’t have any avenue to work with them.

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[–] agent_nycto@lemmy.world 1 point 1 day ago (1 child)

So, to be clear, you're criticizing the Democrats, and the left isn't nearly done fighting, but what you're working on doesn't involve holding any positions of power, nor is it doing something that's meaningfully effective or noticeable.

Not to come off as an ignorant ass, but wouldn't The Left be in a better position for long term meaningful change if The Left made sure to put people into positions of power? I know that might mean having to play ball with and pretend to be a Democrat, but even on a local scale wouldn't that be an effective strategy? Even if you were trying to tear down The System, wouldn't it help to have someone on the inside?

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[–] deathmetaldawgy@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I know that might mean having to play ball with and pretend to be a Democrat, but even on a local scale wouldn’t that be an effective strategy? Even if you were trying to tear down The System, wouldn’t it help to have someone on the inside?

Yes but I think people put way too much into the mainstream dem party only to be shoved out. Some people I’ve organized with have worked with the DNC before. It is not effective strategy to “have someone in the inside “ because someone who gets paid by the DNC or is a member takes an oath to uphold a racist constitution and to uphold capital over their neighbors well being.

In my experience (and others, in real life) the dnc drops you over shareholders/lobbyist/rich people with interests against regular people (I can get into this more if you’d like) 100% of the time, why would I waste time giving them anything besides a vote every few years?

This doesn’t mean my counties D representatives are compromised or not worth working with/voting for, I’m talking about the DNC as a whole.

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[–] FrostyTheDoo@lemmy.world 1 point 3 days ago (3 children)

You should look up the right side's policies on immigration, abortion, and LGBTQ+ rights to exist on earth. I think you'll find some slight differences of opinion between the parties there, and I'd hope you can see why that would sway people's opinions on which one is more evil than the other.

Two things having similarities does not mean they are the same thing.

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[–] deathmetaldawgy@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Well Talarico has the same racist immigration rhetoric that Trump does: deport drug dealers and criminals, even though we know most drug traffickers don’t come from Mexico through legal immigration and that’s a racist lie.

Amy Klobuchar receives money from a systemically genocidal apartheid state and she’s my new governor.

Being happy about the blue wave is one thing, I voted blue just in case, but acting like they (and more importantly their right wing capitulation) is also another thing.

Shame on me for trying to hold my party, and others who actually call themselves Socialists now, accountable from a left standpoint.

So called progressives have already called me slurs today and I fuckin voted. Idk what more you want from me. lol jfc. Hold your leaders accountable. Take a little criticism.

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[–] FrostyTheDoo@lemmy.world 1 point 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 child)

My point was entirely that they are different from Republicans, which was exactly the question you asked.

You didn't ask if there were reasonable things to critique Democrats over, especially individually...Of course the answer to that is yes, and there's no shame on you for a caring about that.

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[–] deathmetaldawgy@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 days ago

Well thank you, because I have been shamed quite a bit today for caring despite always voting blue and then working from there, always punching right and never left, etc.