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[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml [S] 9 points 3 days ago (7 children)

This is going to blow your mind, but use of robotics and automation in manufacturing is already a well established process. Now the idea is just being applied to a wider range of tasks because robots are becoming more versatile.

Meanwhile, under capitalism, I would imagine employees would starve, but in a socialist system people can just have more free time to enjoy their lives having been freed from drudgery. It's kind of hilarious how everybody in the west was doing concern trolling about aging population in China, and now that China is automating manual labor at scale the concern trolling moved to these mythical unemployed people.

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[–] CeeBee_Eh@lemmy.world -2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (6 children)

these mythical unemployed people

China does have one of the highest global rates of youth unemployment.

Edit: highest among nations with large economies. And I was thinking of the 24% stat from a couple years ago. It's down to 18% now.

https://tradingeconomics.com/china/unemployment-rate

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[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml [S] 3 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Youth unemployment in China is about the same as most of Europe, and much lower than say Sweden or Spain https://www.theglobaleconomy.com/rankings/youth_unemployment

And that's perfectly healthy too because youth unemployment counts people between 15 and 24. So, that just means kids are in school instead of doing child labor, and young people have more options to go to university before joining the workforce. But I'm sure you thought this was some clever gotcha.

I guess you think that them kids should be put to work as soon as they can walk so they can start making money for the pedo oligarchs am I right?

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[–] CeeBee_Eh@lemmy.world -2 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Youth unemployment is at 18% in China (it was around 23% / 24% a couple years ago, which is what I was thinking original). And those stats exclude students. Also, I should have prefaced that I meant in large functioning economies.

https://tradingeconomics.com/china/unemployment-rate

I guess you think that them kids should be put to work as soon as they can walk

It's perfectly normal to get a part-time job when you're 16 or 17. Canada's youth unemployment rate is about 13%. Are you suggesting Canadian teens are being used for child labour? Do you think those stats are tracking the 60hr American work week for teens?

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[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml [S] 2 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Again, as the link I provided explains, youth unemployment counts 15 through 24 year olds. And those stats can't exclude students because school education in China is mandatory, so anybody under 18 is in school by definition.

It's perfectly normal to get a part time job for kids instead enjoying their youth under barbaric capitalist regimes. Obviously, Canadian teens are doing child labour instead of doing literally anything else. I grew up in USSR, and I didn't have to be exploited in my teens. Amazing how you see this as normal.

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[–] CeeBee_Eh@lemmy.world -2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

And those stats can't exclude students because school education in China is mandatory, so anybody under 18 is in school by definition.

I just can't with people like you. If school is mandatory for 18 and under, and those stats exclude students, then the remaining demographic out of the 15 to 24 yr olds are... drum roll... youths from 19 to 24!

Obviously, Canadian teens are doing child labour instead of doing literally anything else.

I don't think you understand what "part-time" means. It literally means working a job for less than full time, and can even be a single hour per week.

The point of a part-time job for youths is to give them an idea of what actually working is like. Giving them real responsibilities (with real consequences; good and bad), thereby helping them with personal growth. And giving them a sense of accomplishment (I earned this money).

I worked part-time during highschool, and I had more free time than I knew what to do with. My job was super easy and practically little was expected from me. I had zero need to work, but it's something that helped me appreciate the world around me better.

I have no idea where you're getting this child exploitation garbage from. It sounds a lot like some ingrained communist ideas about the evils of the West (admittedly, not all wrong).

For the record, my parents grew up during the Iron Curtain under Soviet oppression. I've heard all the stories and perspectives. You have some strange ideas.

Edit: spelling

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[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml [S] 2 points 2 days ago (1 child)

I just can’t with people like you. If school is mandatory for 18 and under, and those stats exclude students, then the remaining demographic out of the 15 to 24 yr olds are… drum roll… youths from 19 to 24!

Then it would just say 19-24 wouldn't it genius? The stats obviously track 15-24 year olds across many countries because in many countries child labor is in fact prevalent.

I don’t think you understand what “part-time” means. It literally means working a job for less than full time, and can even be a single hour per week.

Nah, I understand what part-time means perfectly. And living in Canada I also know that it's very much not a single hour a week in practice.

The point of a part-time job for youths is to give them an idea of what actually working is like.

Weird how I didn't have to be subjected to this in USSR. I love how you're just justifying child labor here pretending like exploiting children is good for them actually. What a clown.

I worked part-time during highschool, and I had more free time than I knew what to do with.

Oh you mean your shitty society didn't provide you with any meaningful outlets, so you are thankful for having been exploited as a youth. You have Stockholm syndrome buddy.

For the record, my parents grew up during the Iron Curtain under Soviet oppression.

ah yes SoVieT OpPeRession of having guaranteed healthcare, jobs, education, and not having to worry whether you'd be able to retire in dignity. Not to mention kids actually getting to enjoy their childhood rather than being exploited like your dumb ass was.

Go make a clown of yourself elsewhere.

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