▲ 211 ▼ Google Will Turn Off Search for Schools That Reject A.I. (www.nytimes.com) submitted 5 days ago by silence7@lemmy.world to c/technology@lemmy.world removed 39 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] crandlecan@lemmy.zip 46 points 5 days ago (6 children) Don't be evil. Sigh. Good times 😔 permalink fedilink source hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] furzegulo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 5 days ago Don't be evil permalink fedilink source parent [–] KoboldCoterie@pawb.social -4 points 5 days ago (4 children) It's more enshittification of their product than being evil. They're just saying that AI is so heavily integrated into their search engine that they can't decouple the two, so schools who don't want their students to have access to AI tools can't use their search without exposing students. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] crandlecan@lemmy.zip 13 points 5 days ago And you believe that??? 😆 permalink fedilink source parent [–] cecilkorik@lemmy.ca 9 points 5 days ago As a SaaS vendor, I guarantee Google knows how to use feature flags and conditionals to limit access to certain code paths. I know they do, because I also work for a SaaS vendor, and ex-Google employees are the ones who taught us how to do it. There is also no possible way it is as intertwined in the code as they are implying it is. It is awfully convenient for them to claim that, but it's nonsense. The stated goal of preventing students from accessing AI results is quite simple, from client side technical analysis alone I can tell, at least in most ways, how literally tacked on it is. While it wouldn't be an ideal solution, I can personally literally block it with a CSS rule. So could the schools, technically, and it would more or less achieve their goal. But most importantly, so could Google. The fact that they won't tells you everything you need to know about the honesty of their position. Stop believing and repeating what they're claiming, you're giving near-trillion-dollar companies the benefit of the doubt but they've done nothing to earn that benefit. They're corporate liars, they're deliberately destroying the world and smashing holes in our civilization like a bull in a china shop, and we keep dancing around like we are afraid of being unfair to them, even while they are in the act of being unfair to us and literally standing in front of us telling us something we can see with our own eyes is not true. Just because they have lots and lots of money and lots and lots of platforms to make sure we have no choice but to know all the things they are saying, doesn't mean the things they are saying are at all trustworthy. We need to get over this habitual deference and stop giving equal weighting (or any weight at all) to corporate lies from untrustworthy sources. permalink fedilink source parent [+] Pratai@piefed.ca 4 points 5 days ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] Arcadeep@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago Would you like to buy this brand new, lightly used bridge? permalink fedilink source parent [–] lime@feddit.nu 1 point 5 days ago that sure was quick of them permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies)
[–] KoboldCoterie@pawb.social -4 points 5 days ago (4 children) It's more enshittification of their product than being evil. They're just saying that AI is so heavily integrated into their search engine that they can't decouple the two, so schools who don't want their students to have access to AI tools can't use their search without exposing students. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] crandlecan@lemmy.zip 13 points 5 days ago And you believe that??? 😆 permalink fedilink source parent [–] cecilkorik@lemmy.ca 9 points 5 days ago As a SaaS vendor, I guarantee Google knows how to use feature flags and conditionals to limit access to certain code paths. I know they do, because I also work for a SaaS vendor, and ex-Google employees are the ones who taught us how to do it. There is also no possible way it is as intertwined in the code as they are implying it is. It is awfully convenient for them to claim that, but it's nonsense. The stated goal of preventing students from accessing AI results is quite simple, from client side technical analysis alone I can tell, at least in most ways, how literally tacked on it is. While it wouldn't be an ideal solution, I can personally literally block it with a CSS rule. So could the schools, technically, and it would more or less achieve their goal. But most importantly, so could Google. The fact that they won't tells you everything you need to know about the honesty of their position. Stop believing and repeating what they're claiming, you're giving near-trillion-dollar companies the benefit of the doubt but they've done nothing to earn that benefit. They're corporate liars, they're deliberately destroying the world and smashing holes in our civilization like a bull in a china shop, and we keep dancing around like we are afraid of being unfair to them, even while they are in the act of being unfair to us and literally standing in front of us telling us something we can see with our own eyes is not true. Just because they have lots and lots of money and lots and lots of platforms to make sure we have no choice but to know all the things they are saying, doesn't mean the things they are saying are at all trustworthy. We need to get over this habitual deference and stop giving equal weighting (or any weight at all) to corporate lies from untrustworthy sources. permalink fedilink source parent [+] Pratai@piefed.ca 4 points 5 days ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] Arcadeep@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago Would you like to buy this brand new, lightly used bridge? permalink fedilink source parent [–] lime@feddit.nu 1 point 5 days ago that sure was quick of them permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies)
[–] crandlecan@lemmy.zip 13 points 5 days ago And you believe that??? 😆 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] cecilkorik@lemmy.ca 9 points 5 days ago As a SaaS vendor, I guarantee Google knows how to use feature flags and conditionals to limit access to certain code paths. I know they do, because I also work for a SaaS vendor, and ex-Google employees are the ones who taught us how to do it. There is also no possible way it is as intertwined in the code as they are implying it is. It is awfully convenient for them to claim that, but it's nonsense. The stated goal of preventing students from accessing AI results is quite simple, from client side technical analysis alone I can tell, at least in most ways, how literally tacked on it is. While it wouldn't be an ideal solution, I can personally literally block it with a CSS rule. So could the schools, technically, and it would more or less achieve their goal. But most importantly, so could Google. The fact that they won't tells you everything you need to know about the honesty of their position. Stop believing and repeating what they're claiming, you're giving near-trillion-dollar companies the benefit of the doubt but they've done nothing to earn that benefit. They're corporate liars, they're deliberately destroying the world and smashing holes in our civilization like a bull in a china shop, and we keep dancing around like we are afraid of being unfair to them, even while they are in the act of being unfair to us and literally standing in front of us telling us something we can see with our own eyes is not true. Just because they have lots and lots of money and lots and lots of platforms to make sure we have no choice but to know all the things they are saying, doesn't mean the things they are saying are at all trustworthy. We need to get over this habitual deference and stop giving equal weighting (or any weight at all) to corporate lies from untrustworthy sources. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Arcadeep@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago Would you like to buy this brand new, lightly used bridge? permalink fedilink source parent