Andy Yen's values are incompatible with Proton's mission. He advocates for poor security practices, supports fascists, and he verbally abuses his subordinates. As such, I can no longer in good conscience continue to financially support a company with such terrible leadership.

Unfortunately for me, my subscription just renewed last month on a multi year plan, but it does give me time to browse for and experiment with alternatives.

If you're able, I encourage you to do the same and cite Andy Yen as the driving factor for your decision. We can't let these tech bro fascists destroy what little semblance of privacy we have left.

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[–] -1 points 1 week ago (8 children)

Keep your things in your computer.

That advice is not helpful, though. Most of us used to store passwords on our computer: In our internet browsers. In plain text for anyone to grab. It was the dumbest idea ever and password managers became popular quickly in recent years as more people realized they need to protect their credentials somehow. So no, I genuinely do not believe in just storing passwords somewhere without any safety measures.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 week ago (5 children)

    hat advice is not helpful, though. Most of us used to store passwords on our computer: In our internet browsers. In plain text for anyone to grab. So store them in a safe password manager in your computer.

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  • [–] -2 points 1 week ago (4 children)

    See? You're almost helpful. But I do have to ask you if that password manager has a name? You see, at this point most people would've already given up or just ask ChatGPT or Google AI about it, which in this case would be hypocrite but I digress.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 week ago (3 children)

    See? You’re almost helpful. But I do have to ask you if that password manager has a name?

    Sure, had you asked about a solution rather than trying to write some sort of gotcha. KeePassXC is a fully complete password manager, better than whatever subscription crap you'd rather push, and it stores everything into an encrypted local db file you control. Now guess what I'd recommend for syncing that file across other devices.

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  • [–] 0 points 6 days ago (2 children)

    better than whatever subscription crap you’d rather push

    Okay now you have to give me a source on that too.

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  • [–] 0 points 6 days ago (1 child)

    Do you understand a source is? How can one provide a source to a subjective statement with a comparison that doesn't name a particular service? Provide me a source that my favorite dish is yakisoba.

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  • [–] 0 points 6 days ago

    I was just calling out your antagonism because making wild assumptions about me is pretty wild. Sorry if I'm being perceived as help vampire for asking for directions. Please, if you only wish to give information with a side dish of hostility then you can keep your secrets.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 days ago (1 child)

    Depends on what you're trying to defend against. If it's against a burglar, full disk encryption is plenty, and you can go ahead and save those passwords in the browser and it doesn't matter at all. If it's against your own government you're probably screwed no matter what you do, just a matter of how long it takes them to notice you. Eventually you'll get tired of being in jail and will cough up what they want to know.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 days ago

    I'd definitely use some way of encryption and never store anything in a browser. Nearly nobody does keylogging anymore. Trojans just get your emails and passwords from the browser files and bounce. And you can never be sure if someone might sneak something in. Not as a regular user. Maybe one of the mods in that Minecraft modpack you play with friends suddenly has something in it and you won't know until notifications are rolling in about attempts to log into your accounts. So I definitely would never save passwords in a browser in 2026. Now, I know there are looooots of password managers out there but you need one that can be trusted.

    So yeah I want a handy tool that can quickly fill in my credentials but encrypts everything just well enough to protect me from automated kind of attacks and maybe a burglar too just to be sure. Lots to choose from but I loathe doing all the research to get something that is actually safe, user friendly, reliable and works on Arch. Everything comes with it's up and downs.

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