Came across this community in my feed, and after browsing a bit I'm intrigued.

As an "outsider", I would have assumed this place would be about enjoying a childfree lifestyle, but it seems to be more than that.

For example, I see lots of posts and comments that seem to allude to extinctionism: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voluntary_Human_Extinction_Movement

That caught me off guard since I figured this place would be more like "look at all this free time and money and freedom I have to enjoy my life to the fullest in any way I want". Now I'm curious.

It seems like there's a whole spectrum of ideas that are getting lumped into the same bucket. What's your take? What brought you here?

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] 1 point 1 week ago

The testimony is granted, and it is the strongest form of the objection: the pain was real, it was bearable, and the life that carried it is one its holder would choose again. The question is what that balance licenses for anyone else. A sum does not record who carries which entry. Flat aggregation would therefore also license one person's delight outweighing another person's agony, which almost nobody accepts. The constraint that blocks it, a refusal to use one being as raw material for another's surplus, forbids the cradle for the same reason: a new person made the bearer of an uncapped risk so a balance comes out positive. The remaining alternative is that the child's own joys outweigh its own harms, which presupposes the subject whose creation is in question. Before the act there is no one for whom the joy is a good.

  • source
  • parent