▲ 246 ▼ SpaceX no longer needs NASA, and that’s a problem for America’s space agency: “NASA desperately needs SpaceX, and SpaceX knows it, and Elon knows it.” (arstechnica.com) submitted 1 week ago by eicker@lemmy.world to c/technology@lemmy.world 85 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] Jarix@lemmy.world 27 points 1 week ago (6 children) And also proper funding permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] 3abas@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (5 children) It's why they need SpaceX... They don't have funding, their rocket program has been discontinued, the amazing reusable shuttle has been retired, and it's all been done on purpose to make them dependent on the "private industry". Obviously if they have the right budget, they won't need anyone. That's the point. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Cocodapuf@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago the amazing reusable shuttle has been retired In all fairness, the shuttle was more "refurbishable" than reusable. It needed to be almost completely rebuilt after every flight. Over its service life it proved to be both the most expensive and most dangerous way to get to space. It killed over 4 times more astronauts than any other spacecraft. The shuttle was awesome, it was truly a great achievement! It made building the ISS possible. But... I'm glad it's retired, we're better off with more traditional rockets for many reasons. permalink fedilink source parent [–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago (1 child) we should nationalize spacex. it's footprint to launch represents a real national security risk. it was literally built on federal contracts. it's tech was pioneered by nasa and shittons of former nasa folk work there. it's executive is erratic and unhinged and that's a clear issue for national security. it's utility in war - from ukraine to the middle east - needs to be controlled by the national security interests. Finally, spacex's remit should be launch, not folding in x, grok, tesla and a bunch of other junk to inflate garbage stocks. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Jarix@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago Broken up and and dismantled permalink fedilink source parent [–] UnpoppedCorn@lemmy.world -3 points 1 week ago (1 child) The private industry is doing everything NASA was doing at 1/10th of the cost. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 1 point 1 week ago* https://arstechnica.com/space/2026/10/analysts-find-looming-launch-crisis-is-more-severe-than-anticipated/ oh yeah this is working out GREAT what're you a shareholder? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] 3abas@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (5 children) It's why they need SpaceX... They don't have funding, their rocket program has been discontinued, the amazing reusable shuttle has been retired, and it's all been done on purpose to make them dependent on the "private industry". Obviously if they have the right budget, they won't need anyone. That's the point. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Cocodapuf@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago the amazing reusable shuttle has been retired In all fairness, the shuttle was more "refurbishable" than reusable. It needed to be almost completely rebuilt after every flight. Over its service life it proved to be both the most expensive and most dangerous way to get to space. It killed over 4 times more astronauts than any other spacecraft. The shuttle was awesome, it was truly a great achievement! It made building the ISS possible. But... I'm glad it's retired, we're better off with more traditional rockets for many reasons. permalink fedilink source parent [–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago (1 child) we should nationalize spacex. it's footprint to launch represents a real national security risk. it was literally built on federal contracts. it's tech was pioneered by nasa and shittons of former nasa folk work there. it's executive is erratic and unhinged and that's a clear issue for national security. it's utility in war - from ukraine to the middle east - needs to be controlled by the national security interests. Finally, spacex's remit should be launch, not folding in x, grok, tesla and a bunch of other junk to inflate garbage stocks. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Jarix@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago Broken up and and dismantled permalink fedilink source parent [–] UnpoppedCorn@lemmy.world -3 points 1 week ago (1 child) The private industry is doing everything NASA was doing at 1/10th of the cost. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 1 point 1 week ago* https://arstechnica.com/space/2026/10/analysts-find-looming-launch-crisis-is-more-severe-than-anticipated/ oh yeah this is working out GREAT what're you a shareholder? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Cocodapuf@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago the amazing reusable shuttle has been retired In all fairness, the shuttle was more "refurbishable" than reusable. It needed to be almost completely rebuilt after every flight. Over its service life it proved to be both the most expensive and most dangerous way to get to space. It killed over 4 times more astronauts than any other spacecraft. The shuttle was awesome, it was truly a great achievement! It made building the ISS possible. But... I'm glad it's retired, we're better off with more traditional rockets for many reasons. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago (1 child) we should nationalize spacex. it's footprint to launch represents a real national security risk. it was literally built on federal contracts. it's tech was pioneered by nasa and shittons of former nasa folk work there. it's executive is erratic and unhinged and that's a clear issue for national security. it's utility in war - from ukraine to the middle east - needs to be controlled by the national security interests. Finally, spacex's remit should be launch, not folding in x, grok, tesla and a bunch of other junk to inflate garbage stocks. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Jarix@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago Broken up and and dismantled permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Jarix@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago Broken up and and dismantled permalink fedilink source parent
[–] UnpoppedCorn@lemmy.world -3 points 1 week ago (1 child) The private industry is doing everything NASA was doing at 1/10th of the cost. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 1 point 1 week ago* https://arstechnica.com/space/2026/10/analysts-find-looming-launch-crisis-is-more-severe-than-anticipated/ oh yeah this is working out GREAT what're you a shareholder? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 1 point 1 week ago* https://arstechnica.com/space/2026/10/analysts-find-looming-launch-crisis-is-more-severe-than-anticipated/ oh yeah this is working out GREAT what're you a shareholder? permalink fedilink source parent