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‘There’s a lot of racism, a lot of hatred’: Far right gains predicted as Israel heads to the polls (www.theguardian.com)
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[–] 2 points 1 week ago (1 child)

Says the fellow carrying water for the regime that kicked this all off nearly 80 years ago, and has never abandoned their ethnosupremacist ways. The very same regime that propped up Hamas in order to kneecap Fatah, because they believed they represented a more viable vehicle for ending the conflict with something other than complete surrender of Palestinian land.

Being incapable off distinguishing between Hamas and Palestinians in general reveal your racism.

I understand the difference perfectly well, unlike you, who literally pushes Israeli propaganda and reduced a fence set up to prevent Palestinians from justly and rightly returning to their stolen land to this, less than 24 hours ago:

how putting up a fence to protect people from Hamas is wrong?

You're the one seeing Hamas in every Palestinian here, buddy. It's like you're in charge of picking bombing targets for the IDF or something. I'm just saying I don't blame groups like Hamas for turning to violent means of preventing further Israeli encroachment on Palestinian territory, when Israel has shown at every opportunity that they will take advantage of non-violent protest and peaceful movements towards a democratic Palestine, discredit them and repay that non-violent approach with violence, including helping Hamas to establish control to begin with.

But you're not arguing earnestly or in good faith, anyway. If you were, you couldn't crying about Hamas attacks and oppression of Palestinians while still defending Israel, which has made disproportionate retaliation part of their military doctrine, decimated civilian infrastructure and continues to commit war crimes like using white phosphorus and deliberate starvation indiscriminately on the civilian population of Palestine. You really expect me to take you seriously about your concern for the oppression Hamas inflicts on Palestinians while you defend the state that has over 9.000 Palestinians in prisons, often on spurious pretexts, where sexual and physical abuse runs rampant, and they even set dogs on their prisoners to rape them? I would say don't make me laugh, but it seems more appropriate to ask that you not make me sick.

Also, curiously for the person crying propaganda while spreading unabashed Zionist propaganda, I noticed only one of us is actually citing sources for our claims. But, hey, you're also the one who dismissed UN published images from their investigation into Israeli crimes against humanity during the 2018 protests to mere photoshop produced propaganda, so I'm not sure what else I could expect from you when you already show your true colors in your posting so blatantly.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 week ago

    Says the fellow carrying water for the regime that kicked this all off nearly 80 years ago

    How old do you think I am?

    It is a distinctly fascist trope to use history books as a justification for present day violence and authoritarian rule. There are right now Russians dying in Ukraine to restore a Soviet Empire that never existed in their lifetime.

    Do you think the ethnic makeup of a region should be restored to how it was before any of us was born? I think if a person was born in a place they have a right to continue to live there. More than 80% of of Israelis were born in Israel. So they have a right to live there, no matter what happened in the past. Thinking a baby should be judged for events of 100 years ago is why atrocities like October 7 occur.

    Hamas has very fascistic blood and soil style beliefs where their ethnicity is entitled to remove people of other ethnicities from a region because the history books say they weren't there a hundred years ago or whatever. They coat this with a thin veneer of religion (as fascists often do) but at the heart of Hamas is a fascist ideology.

    We're seeing these fascist beliefs spread into the west. It's an odd thing where people claim to be leftist but support a fascist organization in another part of the world. This puts into question whether leftism in the west is actually leftism, or just fascists in socialist clothing. It's fairly common in history for fascists to claim to be socialists. See National Socialism or present day China for examples.

    But you’re not arguing earnestly or in good faith, anyway. If you were, you couldn’t crying about Hamas attacks and oppression of Palestinians while still defending Israel

    You can't be crying about fascism while defending Hamas. Hamas is fascist, considering Hamas and Palestinians to be one and the same (which is something Netanyahu often does too BTW) is legitimizing fascism. I actually support Palestinians, but I see Hamas as a cancer, the same way I see all fascist movements. You're trying to spread the cancer, which is obviously harmful to Palestinians. I want both Netanyahu and Hamas gone. Because they both have fascistic character and neither respect the right of people to live where they were born.

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