▲ 289 ▼ Thou shalt not kill, except... (lemmy.ml) submitted 2 weeks ago by stemy@lemmy.ml to c/atheistmemes@lemmy.world 33 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] nao@sh.itjust.works 18 points 2 weeks ago (9 children) The process needs 3 people so all 3 are responsible permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] remon@ani.social 4 points 2 weeks ago (8 children) Well no, it would only need one but you don't know which one. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] nexguy@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago (5 children) Well all get attempted murder because they were willing to kill even if it wasn't their button. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] remon@ani.social 2 points 2 weeks ago* (4 children) Well, murder is unlawful killing, this is lawful killing, so no murder charges in the first place. But the post here is just talking about "killing" anyway. Not sure what's the bible's position is on Schrödinger's killings. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] nexguy@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago (3 children) It's not lawful in mine and many eyes. State sponsored revenge killing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] remon@ani.social 3 points 2 weeks ago* (2 children) But lawfulness does not depend on your opinion (unless you are part of the supreme court or equivalent). It depends on the law. You can call it immoral but it's lawful by definition. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nexguy@lemmy.world 1 point 2 weeks ago (1 child) But it isn't. It's illegal in 23 states. Legal in some and illegal in others and the listing is growing. Sentiment against state sponsored revenge killing is also growing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] remon@ani.social 3 points 2 weeks ago That's the US and I'm sure there is some clusterfuck between state law and federal law in a lot of places. But hence "It depends on the law". In general, if the death penality is legal and it's carried out according to the law, it's a lawful killing. Personally I'm very much against the death penalty and I'm glad we don't have it here. permalink fedilink source parent [–] nao@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 child) If the requirements is to have three different people press three buttons, and one out of the three doesn't agree to participate, they can't follow the process and nothing happens. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] remon@ani.social 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) I don't think it's a requirement to have all 3 buttons pressed. It's not a fail-safe, the purpose is to obscure who is responsible. So I assume two of the buttons are duds and one is live. And they probably randomly rewire them before every execution. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] remon@ani.social 4 points 2 weeks ago (8 children) Well no, it would only need one but you don't know which one. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] nexguy@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago (5 children) Well all get attempted murder because they were willing to kill even if it wasn't their button. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] remon@ani.social 2 points 2 weeks ago* (4 children) Well, murder is unlawful killing, this is lawful killing, so no murder charges in the first place. But the post here is just talking about "killing" anyway. Not sure what's the bible's position is on Schrödinger's killings. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] nexguy@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago (3 children) It's not lawful in mine and many eyes. State sponsored revenge killing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] remon@ani.social 3 points 2 weeks ago* (2 children) But lawfulness does not depend on your opinion (unless you are part of the supreme court or equivalent). It depends on the law. You can call it immoral but it's lawful by definition. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nexguy@lemmy.world 1 point 2 weeks ago (1 child) But it isn't. It's illegal in 23 states. Legal in some and illegal in others and the listing is growing. Sentiment against state sponsored revenge killing is also growing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] remon@ani.social 3 points 2 weeks ago That's the US and I'm sure there is some clusterfuck between state law and federal law in a lot of places. But hence "It depends on the law". In general, if the death penality is legal and it's carried out according to the law, it's a lawful killing. Personally I'm very much against the death penalty and I'm glad we don't have it here. permalink fedilink source parent [–] nao@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 child) If the requirements is to have three different people press three buttons, and one out of the three doesn't agree to participate, they can't follow the process and nothing happens. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] remon@ani.social 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) I don't think it's a requirement to have all 3 buttons pressed. It's not a fail-safe, the purpose is to obscure who is responsible. So I assume two of the buttons are duds and one is live. And they probably randomly rewire them before every execution. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] nexguy@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago (5 children) Well all get attempted murder because they were willing to kill even if it wasn't their button. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] remon@ani.social 2 points 2 weeks ago* (4 children) Well, murder is unlawful killing, this is lawful killing, so no murder charges in the first place. But the post here is just talking about "killing" anyway. Not sure what's the bible's position is on Schrödinger's killings. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] nexguy@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago (3 children) It's not lawful in mine and many eyes. State sponsored revenge killing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] remon@ani.social 3 points 2 weeks ago* (2 children) But lawfulness does not depend on your opinion (unless you are part of the supreme court or equivalent). It depends on the law. You can call it immoral but it's lawful by definition. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nexguy@lemmy.world 1 point 2 weeks ago (1 child) But it isn't. It's illegal in 23 states. Legal in some and illegal in others and the listing is growing. Sentiment against state sponsored revenge killing is also growing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] remon@ani.social 3 points 2 weeks ago That's the US and I'm sure there is some clusterfuck between state law and federal law in a lot of places. But hence "It depends on the law". In general, if the death penality is legal and it's carried out according to the law, it's a lawful killing. Personally I'm very much against the death penalty and I'm glad we don't have it here. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] remon@ani.social 2 points 2 weeks ago* (4 children) Well, murder is unlawful killing, this is lawful killing, so no murder charges in the first place. But the post here is just talking about "killing" anyway. Not sure what's the bible's position is on Schrödinger's killings. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] nexguy@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago (3 children) It's not lawful in mine and many eyes. State sponsored revenge killing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] remon@ani.social 3 points 2 weeks ago* (2 children) But lawfulness does not depend on your opinion (unless you are part of the supreme court or equivalent). It depends on the law. You can call it immoral but it's lawful by definition. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nexguy@lemmy.world 1 point 2 weeks ago (1 child) But it isn't. It's illegal in 23 states. Legal in some and illegal in others and the listing is growing. Sentiment against state sponsored revenge killing is also growing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] remon@ani.social 3 points 2 weeks ago That's the US and I'm sure there is some clusterfuck between state law and federal law in a lot of places. But hence "It depends on the law". In general, if the death penality is legal and it's carried out according to the law, it's a lawful killing. Personally I'm very much against the death penalty and I'm glad we don't have it here. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] nexguy@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago (3 children) It's not lawful in mine and many eyes. State sponsored revenge killing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] remon@ani.social 3 points 2 weeks ago* (2 children) But lawfulness does not depend on your opinion (unless you are part of the supreme court or equivalent). It depends on the law. You can call it immoral but it's lawful by definition. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nexguy@lemmy.world 1 point 2 weeks ago (1 child) But it isn't. It's illegal in 23 states. Legal in some and illegal in others and the listing is growing. Sentiment against state sponsored revenge killing is also growing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] remon@ani.social 3 points 2 weeks ago That's the US and I'm sure there is some clusterfuck between state law and federal law in a lot of places. But hence "It depends on the law". In general, if the death penality is legal and it's carried out according to the law, it's a lawful killing. Personally I'm very much against the death penalty and I'm glad we don't have it here. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] remon@ani.social 3 points 2 weeks ago* (2 children) But lawfulness does not depend on your opinion (unless you are part of the supreme court or equivalent). It depends on the law. You can call it immoral but it's lawful by definition. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nexguy@lemmy.world 1 point 2 weeks ago (1 child) But it isn't. It's illegal in 23 states. Legal in some and illegal in others and the listing is growing. Sentiment against state sponsored revenge killing is also growing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] remon@ani.social 3 points 2 weeks ago That's the US and I'm sure there is some clusterfuck between state law and federal law in a lot of places. But hence "It depends on the law". In general, if the death penality is legal and it's carried out according to the law, it's a lawful killing. Personally I'm very much against the death penalty and I'm glad we don't have it here. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] nexguy@lemmy.world 1 point 2 weeks ago (1 child) But it isn't. It's illegal in 23 states. Legal in some and illegal in others and the listing is growing. Sentiment against state sponsored revenge killing is also growing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] remon@ani.social 3 points 2 weeks ago That's the US and I'm sure there is some clusterfuck between state law and federal law in a lot of places. But hence "It depends on the law". In general, if the death penality is legal and it's carried out according to the law, it's a lawful killing. Personally I'm very much against the death penalty and I'm glad we don't have it here. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] remon@ani.social 3 points 2 weeks ago That's the US and I'm sure there is some clusterfuck between state law and federal law in a lot of places. But hence "It depends on the law". In general, if the death penality is legal and it's carried out according to the law, it's a lawful killing. Personally I'm very much against the death penalty and I'm glad we don't have it here. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] nao@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 child) If the requirements is to have three different people press three buttons, and one out of the three doesn't agree to participate, they can't follow the process and nothing happens. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] remon@ani.social 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) I don't think it's a requirement to have all 3 buttons pressed. It's not a fail-safe, the purpose is to obscure who is responsible. So I assume two of the buttons are duds and one is live. And they probably randomly rewire them before every execution. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] remon@ani.social 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) I don't think it's a requirement to have all 3 buttons pressed. It's not a fail-safe, the purpose is to obscure who is responsible. So I assume two of the buttons are duds and one is live. And they probably randomly rewire them before every execution. permalink fedilink source parent