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No cities on the Moon: a billion tons of water is not enough for sustainability (www.frontiersin.org)
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[–] 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

That’s a lot of wishful thinking to digest ;-). There’s zero evidence to support this vision , and human egoism (wars, revenue-focus, …) seem to be IMHO completely ignored. I witnessed these type of predictions in the 70s, 90s, 10s… they never materialized.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 week ago (2 children)

    The ongoing automation is the evidence. The trend is to fully automate the whole production chain and that will lead to decentralisation, because centralisation only makes sense with human labour.

    Human egoism isn't bad in itself. The problem is that it conflicts with altruism. That's where it gets destructive. But this can be solved. If everyone can automatically produce what they need themselves, there's no more competing for who's going to be the one providing and the one taking. The roles merge. Egoism and altruism become the same thing and neither stays destructive.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 child)

    But that’s all theory. Fact is that automation costs energy, and energy creates CO2. So climate change is the force that works against your plan, and since we are heading to 2.8C, time is quickly running out. In addition, trends such as urbanization (which has been taking place for about 5000 years), the rise of fascism etc also don’t seem to be in favor. Taken together, humanity may very well collapse first. So instead of working on your dream, become active; vote, protect.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 week ago

    Fact is that automation costs energy, and energy creates CO2.

    I've talked about this above: "If you use local small and natural sources of energy instead of burning millions of tons of coal, you also don't pollute the environment as much."

    Burning isn't the only possible source of energy and it's really effective only with centralisation. Some niche attempts at creating means of local power generation already exist. For example, getting power from living plants. I think switching to such decentralised and eco-friendly forms of energy production is the solution to climate change.

    Fascism is another manifestation of "human egoism" which I adressed above. Urbanization doesn't exist on its own either. It is a consequence of the centralised mode of production, which to my mind, as I said earlier, is something we are going to move away from.

    Voting and being politically active isn't going to invent and adopt new means of decentralised production. It is us, regular citizens, who should do it.

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