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how to create a privacy friendly news group or smt like thatt (piefed.social)
submitted 2 weeks ago by to c/privacy@lemmy.ml
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I want to connect my neighbourhood in some way, but I don't know how to handle this privacy friendly ๐Ÿค”

we want to connect to coordinate .. lets say some gardening. we can handle first information via email, but afterwards it gets messy for the organizer. the neighbours don't care about privacy at all as far as I know so Element/Matrix won't work. and most of them don't have 'media literacy skills. should I give in and forget about a coordinated talking ground outside of neighbourhood meetings irl?

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[โ€“] 4 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

DaltaChat (use its fork called ArcaneChat on mobile devices) is super straightforward to start using. You just download the app, enter your nickname - note: no phone number, no email, even no password! - and you're ready to go. Then you need an invite link to the group chat and that's it. The onboarding experience is in fact much simpler than on WhatsApp, Telegram or Signal.

Also as DeltaChat doesn't require a phone number or other confidentials, it is much more private than Signal. And it has stronger encryption than the latter (AFAIK Signal doesn't encrypt the message metadata).

I've managed to even get my gandma using DeltaChat (ArcaneChat) so I think it's the best choice for people who are not very into tech.

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  • [โ€“] [S] 1 point 2 weeks ago (2 children)

    So I'll just provide a QR-Code to the grouchat and they are in?

    Is Arcane available for both IOs and Android?

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    And do I need a new inbox programm or an extra email if we use emsil like chat? I use thunderbird and I feel like there would be a lot of alerts popping up?

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  • [โ€“] 2 points 2 weeks ago

    Slight correction to his advice:

    Delta Chat (the app itself) is available on iOS, android, windows, mac, and Linux. There is a fork on android called ArcaneChat, but it isn't the only app available and the "official" one is also (as in both are) on F-Droid as well as Play Store.

    I also recommend a Delta Chat "Group" if you want a group chat, or Delta Chat "Channel" if you want to be the sole poster for disseminating "news." If group chat be aware: there are no moderators or admins or anything, all users have the same power, this means any user can kick any other user. It's mostly meant for families and friends groups where that won't be an issue, but a neighborhood chat would also likely be fine depending on your neighbors lol.

    Yes, pretty much just put a QR code and it should work, it should take them to the app store directly to Delta Chat, and then once they DL and make an acct they may have to scan it again.

    You would use Delta Chat as the client for the chats, with a separate chatmail address made during set-up, completely divorced from TBird or your email. You CAN use a traditional email to communicate with DC but it isn't recommended anymore and it's a whole thing, good luck getting your neighbors to set up a new email just for chatmails and set up autocrypt on it properly to communicate with encrypted chatmails, and yes you can use unencrypted email but it's still advised to be a dedicated address and tbh why not just use email if you're not going to encrypt it?

    To your users who don't know shit about what's under the hood it'll just look like whatsapp, they'll have an easier time accepting "new app."

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  • [โ€“] 2 points 2 weeks ago

    So I'll just provide a QR-Code to the grouchat and they are in?

    Yes!

    Is Arcane available for both IOs and Android?

    Oh okay, my bad. I forgot about iOS ๐Ÿ˜… ArcaneChat is available only for Android, but DeltaChat is available on both. They are inter-operable, so you can tell Android users to use ArcaneChat and iOS users to use DeltaChat. Or use DeltaChat for both. ArcaneChat just adds a couple features like Markdown.

    And do I need a new inbox programm or an extra email if we use emsil like chat? I use thunderbird and I feel like there would be a lot of alerts popping up?

    DeltaChat creates an account on its own kind of servers automatically so you don't have to worry about that.

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