Thanks to the commenter who reminded me that it's not bad to be reminded that the term is only a pejorative because conservative racists made it so.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woke#20th_century

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[–] 3 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Waving your hands and saying "woke is not an insult" will not stop it from being used as an insult. But we can counter by using MAGA as an insult.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    yup. but it also takes away their power when they're like "you're woke!" and you're like "oh, you really think so? that's wonderful"

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    yeah if you can pull it off but tbh it's probably not going to go as well as you might picture it in your head.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    no for sure. it's a two prong attack of counterpropaganda. the first is responding immediately by saying MAGA or MAGAt like its a hateful term (easy, it is) but the other prong is within our own circles reminding ourselves that woke folk get shit done and it's a good thing to be

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago*

    I feel like there's a pretty big set of center-to-left people for whom the positive notion of wokeness is spoiled by particularly egregious behaviour of, say, "woke Twitter." (for instance, I suspect many are eager to move on from "mansplain." And let's not forget people bullying Lindsay Ellis for comparing Raya and the Last Dragon to Avatar; that was fucked up.)

    If we can deftly arrange for "woke" to redirect to that kind of peripheral stuff, and extract the important stuff -- protections for minorities, diversity and inclusion, etc. -- under some new label, then yeah I'm content to leave "woke" in the past.

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