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[โ€“] 1 point 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Fair enough, I haven't used one of their devices before, this is just what I've seen on the internet. I know that some of their devices are supported by LineageOS too (the Skyline and one other one), so that might fix the poor software problem?

But yeah, they're not fantastic for sure. I've only ranked them higher for repairability (albeit maybe Shiftphone should also be higher if that's the case, I've edited the comment now) and the price compared to the other European brands

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