▲ 120 ▼ Heat pumps and insulation would cut UK living costs more than new oilfields, study suggests (www.theguardian.com) submitted 3 weeks ago by silence7@slrpnk.net to c/climate@slrpnk.net 12 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[+] lntl@lemmy.ml -6 points 3 weeks ago (9 children) Scotland: How about stfu? permalink fedilink source hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] Zombie@feddit.uk 4 points 3 weeks ago (8 children) Only one city cares about oil and even there sentiment has significantly shifted. Two universities, three colleges, and three other higher education institutes in a city of less than 250k means there's a lot of highly educated young people that understand what climate change means. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] lntl@lemmy.ml -1 points 3 weeks ago (7 children) There is broad support for North Sea drilling in Scotland. With the recent rise in oil prices, sentiment has indeed shifted towards even greater support for the industry. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] HerbGrower@slrpnk.net 2 points 3 weeks ago (6 children) With increases in prices then surely there would be increased support for improving energy efficiency? Which you get with heat pumps and insulation. My total energy bill is like £85/month with a heat pump and likely to drop soon from increasing efficiencies in my house like new internal doors. Its not even a new build, pre-war. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] lntl@lemmy.ml -4 points 3 weeks ago (5 children) By sustainably recovering North Sea oil and gas, Scotland can avoid expensive retrofits with lower fuel pricing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] HerbGrower@slrpnk.net 8 points 3 weeks ago (4 children) You will still be paying the market rate for fuels, it doesn't make a difference where they come from. Also, "sustainably recovering"? That doesn't exist. Drilling for oil is also expensive and leaves you with nothing again the moment you have burnt it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] rmuk@feddit.uk 3 points 3 weeks ago Drilling for oil is also expensive and leaves you with nothing again the moment you have burnt it. Yes, but more importantly (imho, and ignoring, y'know, fucking up the environment): every drop of oil produced just delays the transition to renewables, and the longer it's left the more painful it will be. permalink fedilink source parent [–] lntl@lemmy.ml -3 points 3 weeks ago (2 children) By leveraging green, clean, and sustainable oil and gas recovery technologies Scotland can create local jobs, lower fuel prices, keep warm in the colder months, and cool in the warmer ones. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] spidermanchild@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) For fucks sake there is no such thing as green, clean, and sustainable oil and gas recovery technologies. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] lntl@lemmy.ml 1 point 3 weeks ago Just believe : ) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Zombie@feddit.uk 4 points 3 weeks ago (8 children) Only one city cares about oil and even there sentiment has significantly shifted. Two universities, three colleges, and three other higher education institutes in a city of less than 250k means there's a lot of highly educated young people that understand what climate change means. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] lntl@lemmy.ml -1 points 3 weeks ago (7 children) There is broad support for North Sea drilling in Scotland. With the recent rise in oil prices, sentiment has indeed shifted towards even greater support for the industry. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] HerbGrower@slrpnk.net 2 points 3 weeks ago (6 children) With increases in prices then surely there would be increased support for improving energy efficiency? Which you get with heat pumps and insulation. My total energy bill is like £85/month with a heat pump and likely to drop soon from increasing efficiencies in my house like new internal doors. Its not even a new build, pre-war. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] lntl@lemmy.ml -4 points 3 weeks ago (5 children) By sustainably recovering North Sea oil and gas, Scotland can avoid expensive retrofits with lower fuel pricing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] HerbGrower@slrpnk.net 8 points 3 weeks ago (4 children) You will still be paying the market rate for fuels, it doesn't make a difference where they come from. Also, "sustainably recovering"? That doesn't exist. Drilling for oil is also expensive and leaves you with nothing again the moment you have burnt it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] rmuk@feddit.uk 3 points 3 weeks ago Drilling for oil is also expensive and leaves you with nothing again the moment you have burnt it. Yes, but more importantly (imho, and ignoring, y'know, fucking up the environment): every drop of oil produced just delays the transition to renewables, and the longer it's left the more painful it will be. permalink fedilink source parent [–] lntl@lemmy.ml -3 points 3 weeks ago (2 children) By leveraging green, clean, and sustainable oil and gas recovery technologies Scotland can create local jobs, lower fuel prices, keep warm in the colder months, and cool in the warmer ones. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] spidermanchild@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) For fucks sake there is no such thing as green, clean, and sustainable oil and gas recovery technologies. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] lntl@lemmy.ml 1 point 3 weeks ago Just believe : ) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] lntl@lemmy.ml -1 points 3 weeks ago (7 children) There is broad support for North Sea drilling in Scotland. With the recent rise in oil prices, sentiment has indeed shifted towards even greater support for the industry. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] HerbGrower@slrpnk.net 2 points 3 weeks ago (6 children) With increases in prices then surely there would be increased support for improving energy efficiency? Which you get with heat pumps and insulation. My total energy bill is like £85/month with a heat pump and likely to drop soon from increasing efficiencies in my house like new internal doors. Its not even a new build, pre-war. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] lntl@lemmy.ml -4 points 3 weeks ago (5 children) By sustainably recovering North Sea oil and gas, Scotland can avoid expensive retrofits with lower fuel pricing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] HerbGrower@slrpnk.net 8 points 3 weeks ago (4 children) You will still be paying the market rate for fuels, it doesn't make a difference where they come from. Also, "sustainably recovering"? That doesn't exist. Drilling for oil is also expensive and leaves you with nothing again the moment you have burnt it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] rmuk@feddit.uk 3 points 3 weeks ago Drilling for oil is also expensive and leaves you with nothing again the moment you have burnt it. Yes, but more importantly (imho, and ignoring, y'know, fucking up the environment): every drop of oil produced just delays the transition to renewables, and the longer it's left the more painful it will be. permalink fedilink source parent [–] lntl@lemmy.ml -3 points 3 weeks ago (2 children) By leveraging green, clean, and sustainable oil and gas recovery technologies Scotland can create local jobs, lower fuel prices, keep warm in the colder months, and cool in the warmer ones. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] spidermanchild@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) For fucks sake there is no such thing as green, clean, and sustainable oil and gas recovery technologies. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] lntl@lemmy.ml 1 point 3 weeks ago Just believe : ) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] HerbGrower@slrpnk.net 2 points 3 weeks ago (6 children) With increases in prices then surely there would be increased support for improving energy efficiency? Which you get with heat pumps and insulation. My total energy bill is like £85/month with a heat pump and likely to drop soon from increasing efficiencies in my house like new internal doors. Its not even a new build, pre-war. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] lntl@lemmy.ml -4 points 3 weeks ago (5 children) By sustainably recovering North Sea oil and gas, Scotland can avoid expensive retrofits with lower fuel pricing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] HerbGrower@slrpnk.net 8 points 3 weeks ago (4 children) You will still be paying the market rate for fuels, it doesn't make a difference where they come from. Also, "sustainably recovering"? That doesn't exist. Drilling for oil is also expensive and leaves you with nothing again the moment you have burnt it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] rmuk@feddit.uk 3 points 3 weeks ago Drilling for oil is also expensive and leaves you with nothing again the moment you have burnt it. Yes, but more importantly (imho, and ignoring, y'know, fucking up the environment): every drop of oil produced just delays the transition to renewables, and the longer it's left the more painful it will be. permalink fedilink source parent [–] lntl@lemmy.ml -3 points 3 weeks ago (2 children) By leveraging green, clean, and sustainable oil and gas recovery technologies Scotland can create local jobs, lower fuel prices, keep warm in the colder months, and cool in the warmer ones. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] spidermanchild@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) For fucks sake there is no such thing as green, clean, and sustainable oil and gas recovery technologies. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] lntl@lemmy.ml 1 point 3 weeks ago Just believe : ) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] lntl@lemmy.ml -4 points 3 weeks ago (5 children) By sustainably recovering North Sea oil and gas, Scotland can avoid expensive retrofits with lower fuel pricing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] HerbGrower@slrpnk.net 8 points 3 weeks ago (4 children) You will still be paying the market rate for fuels, it doesn't make a difference where they come from. Also, "sustainably recovering"? That doesn't exist. Drilling for oil is also expensive and leaves you with nothing again the moment you have burnt it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] rmuk@feddit.uk 3 points 3 weeks ago Drilling for oil is also expensive and leaves you with nothing again the moment you have burnt it. Yes, but more importantly (imho, and ignoring, y'know, fucking up the environment): every drop of oil produced just delays the transition to renewables, and the longer it's left the more painful it will be. permalink fedilink source parent [–] lntl@lemmy.ml -3 points 3 weeks ago (2 children) By leveraging green, clean, and sustainable oil and gas recovery technologies Scotland can create local jobs, lower fuel prices, keep warm in the colder months, and cool in the warmer ones. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] spidermanchild@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) For fucks sake there is no such thing as green, clean, and sustainable oil and gas recovery technologies. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] lntl@lemmy.ml 1 point 3 weeks ago Just believe : ) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] HerbGrower@slrpnk.net 8 points 3 weeks ago (4 children) You will still be paying the market rate for fuels, it doesn't make a difference where they come from. Also, "sustainably recovering"? That doesn't exist. Drilling for oil is also expensive and leaves you with nothing again the moment you have burnt it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] rmuk@feddit.uk 3 points 3 weeks ago Drilling for oil is also expensive and leaves you with nothing again the moment you have burnt it. Yes, but more importantly (imho, and ignoring, y'know, fucking up the environment): every drop of oil produced just delays the transition to renewables, and the longer it's left the more painful it will be. permalink fedilink source parent [–] lntl@lemmy.ml -3 points 3 weeks ago (2 children) By leveraging green, clean, and sustainable oil and gas recovery technologies Scotland can create local jobs, lower fuel prices, keep warm in the colder months, and cool in the warmer ones. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] spidermanchild@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) For fucks sake there is no such thing as green, clean, and sustainable oil and gas recovery technologies. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] lntl@lemmy.ml 1 point 3 weeks ago Just believe : ) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] rmuk@feddit.uk 3 points 3 weeks ago Drilling for oil is also expensive and leaves you with nothing again the moment you have burnt it. Yes, but more importantly (imho, and ignoring, y'know, fucking up the environment): every drop of oil produced just delays the transition to renewables, and the longer it's left the more painful it will be. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] lntl@lemmy.ml -3 points 3 weeks ago (2 children) By leveraging green, clean, and sustainable oil and gas recovery technologies Scotland can create local jobs, lower fuel prices, keep warm in the colder months, and cool in the warmer ones. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] spidermanchild@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) For fucks sake there is no such thing as green, clean, and sustainable oil and gas recovery technologies. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] lntl@lemmy.ml 1 point 3 weeks ago Just believe : ) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] spidermanchild@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) For fucks sake there is no such thing as green, clean, and sustainable oil and gas recovery technologies. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] lntl@lemmy.ml 1 point 3 weeks ago Just believe : ) permalink fedilink source parent