I did a cursory search on this, and couldn't find anything, however, is there or could there be an llm trained only on text or data which is in the public domain or is otherwise openly licensed?

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[–] 9 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

There is no need to call me a sweet summer child.

I'm not terribly swayed by a Munich regional case, especially as its still under appeal.

The anthropic settlement definitely is a bit more meaningful though, although it does contradict the Munich one:

We reached this settlement in 2025, after the court's landmark ruling that training AI on books is fair ​use under copyright law

The basically settled because they stole the copies of books they used to train on. If they had just paid for a copy of the books they possibly would have been fine.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (3 children)

    My apologies, it was an attempt at humor which I can see backfired. 😬

    Now as for the case selection, I personally find the regional case interesting because it appears to show the possibility of courts seeing this differently. There are more out there than the ones I quoted.

    And I think there might be a possible misunderstanding, sorry about my lack of clarity: I wasn't trying to prove that this is for sure a copyright infringement, since I'm not a lawyer anyway. But I think it's pretty obvious NVidia doesn't care if it turns out to be one - that's at least my personal opinion.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    The regional case isnt interesting because its regional. Regional courts get it wrong all the time, only for it to be overturned by higher courts. There is also the possibility that this court was known to be pro-authors or anti-big tech, and the case was brought there for that specific reason.

    If it gets held up on appeal then that is much more interesting, but for now, its basically one judges opinion.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 child)

    In my uninformed opinion, it casts quite some doubt on the narrative that it's absurd that courts will somehow decide against AI, or that the use will "clearly" not ever turn out to be a fundamental problem later. And again, there are multiple cases where this happened, it's not just one judge.

    But I'm not a legal expert so keep that in mind and don't trust me. (However, I'm making an educated guess that perhaps you aren't one either. My apologies if that is incorrect.)

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