▲ -4 ▼ [Video] More than 50 Zohran Mamdani-backed Zionists commit a Pogrom against village of Almughayyir (peertube.wtf) submitted 1 month ago by IndustryStandard@lemmy.world to c/palestine@lemmy.ml 9 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] yuki_gassen@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 month ago (8 children) How exactly is Mamdani involved in this incident? permalink fedilink source hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world [S] 2 points 1 month ago He financially supports these people permalink fedilink source parent [–] Bane_Killgrind@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 month ago (6 children) He's supporting jews in new york, so that means he's supporting jews in israel permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] yuki_gassen@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 month ago (5 children) Fair enough. Zionists, not just "Jews," though. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] bhyoram@todon.eu 1 point 1 month ago (4 children) @yuki_gassen @Bane_Killgrind Supporting Zionists (which mamdani does) is the opposite of supporting Jews. Zionism put Jews in danger and present their existence in their countries as not legitimate. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] yuki_gassen@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 month ago Yes. Which is why this title is concerning to me. I try to be vigilant against the flaws of reformism, but this portrayal seems to benefit anti-Mamdani conservatives over anti-Zionists. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Bane_Killgrind@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 month ago (2 children) I'm really not convinced of the direct relationship between what he is doing in New York, and these Zionist Israelis in Israel. I'm more convinced that this is misinformation by conservatives against a leftist that has a long history of pro-palestine activism, BDS etc permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] yuki_gassen@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) Yes, I concur. A better takeaway might be the clear evidence of the limitations of electoral politics, especially in the US. Not that Mamdani is now Bibi's BFF. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Bane_Killgrind@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 month ago Yeah. That said there's absolutely problems with citing special interest group articles instead of more academic sources, and the data collected by the police for the statistics they release is inherently biased, without even getting into the discussion on police departments that receive training from Israeli programs. I haven't seen anyone really talking about how to change that. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world [S] 2 points 1 month ago He financially supports these people permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Bane_Killgrind@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 month ago (6 children) He's supporting jews in new york, so that means he's supporting jews in israel permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] yuki_gassen@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 month ago (5 children) Fair enough. Zionists, not just "Jews," though. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] bhyoram@todon.eu 1 point 1 month ago (4 children) @yuki_gassen @Bane_Killgrind Supporting Zionists (which mamdani does) is the opposite of supporting Jews. Zionism put Jews in danger and present their existence in their countries as not legitimate. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] yuki_gassen@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 month ago Yes. Which is why this title is concerning to me. I try to be vigilant against the flaws of reformism, but this portrayal seems to benefit anti-Mamdani conservatives over anti-Zionists. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Bane_Killgrind@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 month ago (2 children) I'm really not convinced of the direct relationship between what he is doing in New York, and these Zionist Israelis in Israel. I'm more convinced that this is misinformation by conservatives against a leftist that has a long history of pro-palestine activism, BDS etc permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] yuki_gassen@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) Yes, I concur. A better takeaway might be the clear evidence of the limitations of electoral politics, especially in the US. Not that Mamdani is now Bibi's BFF. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Bane_Killgrind@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 month ago Yeah. That said there's absolutely problems with citing special interest group articles instead of more academic sources, and the data collected by the police for the statistics they release is inherently biased, without even getting into the discussion on police departments that receive training from Israeli programs. I haven't seen anyone really talking about how to change that. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] yuki_gassen@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 month ago (5 children) Fair enough. Zionists, not just "Jews," though. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] bhyoram@todon.eu 1 point 1 month ago (4 children) @yuki_gassen @Bane_Killgrind Supporting Zionists (which mamdani does) is the opposite of supporting Jews. Zionism put Jews in danger and present their existence in their countries as not legitimate. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] yuki_gassen@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 month ago Yes. Which is why this title is concerning to me. I try to be vigilant against the flaws of reformism, but this portrayal seems to benefit anti-Mamdani conservatives over anti-Zionists. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Bane_Killgrind@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 month ago (2 children) I'm really not convinced of the direct relationship between what he is doing in New York, and these Zionist Israelis in Israel. I'm more convinced that this is misinformation by conservatives against a leftist that has a long history of pro-palestine activism, BDS etc permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] yuki_gassen@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) Yes, I concur. A better takeaway might be the clear evidence of the limitations of electoral politics, especially in the US. Not that Mamdani is now Bibi's BFF. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Bane_Killgrind@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 month ago Yeah. That said there's absolutely problems with citing special interest group articles instead of more academic sources, and the data collected by the police for the statistics they release is inherently biased, without even getting into the discussion on police departments that receive training from Israeli programs. I haven't seen anyone really talking about how to change that. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bhyoram@todon.eu 1 point 1 month ago (4 children) @yuki_gassen @Bane_Killgrind Supporting Zionists (which mamdani does) is the opposite of supporting Jews. Zionism put Jews in danger and present their existence in their countries as not legitimate. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] yuki_gassen@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 month ago Yes. Which is why this title is concerning to me. I try to be vigilant against the flaws of reformism, but this portrayal seems to benefit anti-Mamdani conservatives over anti-Zionists. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Bane_Killgrind@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 month ago (2 children) I'm really not convinced of the direct relationship between what he is doing in New York, and these Zionist Israelis in Israel. I'm more convinced that this is misinformation by conservatives against a leftist that has a long history of pro-palestine activism, BDS etc permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] yuki_gassen@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) Yes, I concur. A better takeaway might be the clear evidence of the limitations of electoral politics, especially in the US. Not that Mamdani is now Bibi's BFF. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Bane_Killgrind@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 month ago Yeah. That said there's absolutely problems with citing special interest group articles instead of more academic sources, and the data collected by the police for the statistics they release is inherently biased, without even getting into the discussion on police departments that receive training from Israeli programs. I haven't seen anyone really talking about how to change that. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] yuki_gassen@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 month ago Yes. Which is why this title is concerning to me. I try to be vigilant against the flaws of reformism, but this portrayal seems to benefit anti-Mamdani conservatives over anti-Zionists. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Bane_Killgrind@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 month ago (2 children) I'm really not convinced of the direct relationship between what he is doing in New York, and these Zionist Israelis in Israel. I'm more convinced that this is misinformation by conservatives against a leftist that has a long history of pro-palestine activism, BDS etc permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] yuki_gassen@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) Yes, I concur. A better takeaway might be the clear evidence of the limitations of electoral politics, especially in the US. Not that Mamdani is now Bibi's BFF. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Bane_Killgrind@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 month ago Yeah. That said there's absolutely problems with citing special interest group articles instead of more academic sources, and the data collected by the police for the statistics they release is inherently biased, without even getting into the discussion on police departments that receive training from Israeli programs. I haven't seen anyone really talking about how to change that. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] yuki_gassen@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) Yes, I concur. A better takeaway might be the clear evidence of the limitations of electoral politics, especially in the US. Not that Mamdani is now Bibi's BFF. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Bane_Killgrind@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 month ago Yeah. That said there's absolutely problems with citing special interest group articles instead of more academic sources, and the data collected by the police for the statistics they release is inherently biased, without even getting into the discussion on police departments that receive training from Israeli programs. I haven't seen anyone really talking about how to change that. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Bane_Killgrind@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 month ago Yeah. That said there's absolutely problems with citing special interest group articles instead of more academic sources, and the data collected by the police for the statistics they release is inherently biased, without even getting into the discussion on police departments that receive training from Israeli programs. I haven't seen anyone really talking about how to change that. permalink fedilink source parent