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[–] 2 points 4 weeks ago (5 children)

so, uhh, god's plan was wrong, huh?

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  • [–] 5 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

    Well, if you're arguing from the position of god not exiting in the first place, then the counterargument could be that god decided to give the pope lung cancer to test him and thus make him a stronger man. If he dies from the cancer then... well... It's still god's plan. Sorry, you lose either way (heavy, HEAVY sarcasm meant)

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  • [–] 1 point 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    Yep, a classic: suffering is part of God's plan. The real question is whether God could pull off his grand plan with less suffering. Is it really necessary to give infants leukemia to accomplish his goal? If yes, he's not all powerful. If no, he's an asshole. Then they sidestep to free will and sin, at which point you ask them who decided the consequences of sin in the first place.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 weeks ago

    The Christian response would be that God's plan is always right. Even apart from that, I don't think the lifespan of a pope would imply that God did something "wrong". It's not like the pope is getting picked to rule for as long as possible or something. It's not like a monarchy where people say things like "this dynasty shall rule for a thousand generations!"

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