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Missed a little because I was trying to be sneaky.
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[–] 21 points 1 month ago (22 children)

My calculations may be wrong but here in northern Europe we pay double that

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  • [–] 10 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    It's no wonder everyone's getting new cars here.

    Electricity is about a quarter of that for the same mileage.

    Using the current prices and my own mileage, it would take 5 years to finance a new car only by the savings on fuel.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 month ago

    Same here

    The money I would save on fuel would be the same that I'd have to pay to pay off a new small EV.

    My only concern is that I'd have to buy a larger car than that, to be able to drive the distances that I some times do in my diesel car.

    But I'm almost willing to have to charge more often, than spend money on a more expensive one

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  • [–] 9 points 1 month ago* (2 children)

    You would be pretty much on the money.

    Because the USA produces practically enough oil to be self reliant without oil coming through the straight, their prices havent actually increased as much as other countries who dont produce their own oil.
    So not only did they drive up prices worldwide to fuck every other country over but americans have the gall to bitch about fuel prices which have increased a fraction of the impact its had on ours whilst being the sole reason for the fuckery.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago

    Its cheaper now than ours was before all of this stuff. But I stopped directly using fossil fuels years ago so it hasn't effected me in any way.

    Except for having to listen to other people moan about it, that has gone way up. Everyone I know with a car that complains about it could either cycle to work or get an EV, so I don't really care when they moan about fuel prices.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 month ago (6 children)

    2.39 €/liter here. 4.54 liters in a gallon. 1.12 $/€.

    12.15 $/gallon. Yes, it's double..

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  • [–] 6 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    I've always heard that vehicles in europe are designed for better fuel economy, something about how emissions laws are worded.

    In America it is common for small vehicles to get 30 miles per gallon (unleaded) , about $4 to $5 a gallon right now in the states.

    Larger vehicles that take unleaded, like SUVs, trucks, vans, get maybe 15 to 20 mpg.

    Large trucks and semi-trucks might be 8 to 15 mpg of diesel.

    With respect of conversions of dollars, miles, and gallons, can anyone in Europe compare?

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago

    IIRC, the US measure how efficient an engine burn an amount of fuel, while Europe measure the emissions of the distance traveled.

    Quick and simplified example to illustrate the difference:

    US car getting 33.5mpg (7.0 l/100km) emitting 126g of CO2 per kilometer. That's 18g of CO2 per liter of fuel.

    EU car getting 39.2mpg (6.0 l/100km) emitting 120g of CO2 per kilometer. That's 20g of CO2 per liter of fuel.

    It's been years since I read about this, so I can't remember the details of how/what it's measured.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago

    My previous car was a small 6 cylinder BMW and used about 10L/100km (mostly short city trips, about 8L highway).

    That's 23mpg in the city, 30 hwy, at 10.6USD per gallon (2.5 eur/L)

    Now it's about 18kWh/100km so 3.5 miles per kWh at 0.09 cents in summer and 30 cents in winter (solar panels).

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    Personally I have 5 miles to the closest grocery store and 11 miles to work.

    Its not crazy long, but long enough to need a car because there are no busses or trains and cycling or scooters isn't always safe in the weather that we get here.

    My confusion though is, why cars over there use so much more gas when, as you say, people need them. I'd assume that smaller more economical cars would be more popular in a country where distances are long

    Further more, I think that the issue about not affording food, comes down to wages and not gas prices

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago* (4 children)

    Further more, I think that the issue about not affording food, comes down to wages and not gas prices

    This is a great point, it kind of ends up being both in the USA right now, especially the price of gas keeps increasing while many peoples' wages have remained pretty stagnant.

    USA min wage, 2000: $7.25/hour. Average gas cost for the year was around: $1.40/gallon

    USA min wage, 2026: $7.25/hour. Average gas cost today: $4.36

    Sure, lots of people make more than minimum wage, but lots of people make less, too (if they get tipped).

    My confusion though is, why cars over there use so much more gas when, as you say, people need them. I’d assume that smaller more economical cars would be more popular in a country where distances are long

    I am also confused about this one 😂 despite living here my whole life. I have a subcompact hatchback of a type that's pretty common in Europe/Asia and kinda rare in the USA. People are often shocked by how small it is. My ex-gf's mom (from a rural area/"big truck country") was like straight up offended by how small my car was. Every time I travel in Europe I'm like "omg, everyone here has cars like mine, this is so nice" People don't even understand the fringe benefits beyond fuel efficiency. My car is easy for others to see around, so traffic flows better around me. I can park it anywhere, because there's almost always a place that the huge American cars gave up on trying to fit into. I even get discounts on ferries because my car is so small!

    I think most Americans just don't understand how much fun small cars can be, they want more room to haul more stuff and people (even though most of us already have too much stuff & not enough friends, boom roasted)

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (3 children)

    Now I am curious. What car don't have?

    We gave a Suzuki Splash. It is still a small car but not even close to the smallest ones I often see around here.

    Sure its not as comfortable, especially on long drives on the motorway (speed limit 80m/h) but the benefits counter that by quite a lot!

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (2 children)

    Yeah that’s basically the type of car I’m talking about. Mine is a Toyota Yaris but yeah. When I was in Italy I drove my friend’s Chevy Matiz and I was like. This is made by an American company, but they don’t sell it in the USA! It’s bonkers

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