Found this picture on Wikipedia and it amuses me greatly. 🙃

Photo from a movie theater that offers nutritional yeast as a topping for popcorn. They have it in a little shaker with a handwritten label that reads:
Nutritional Yeast
...like Powdered
Cheese for
VEGANS
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[–] [S] 2 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Hmm, from what I read, it's usually just B12 which is added to nutritional yeast. And Wikipedia says:

As for safety, tolerable upper intake levels (known as ULs) are set for vitamins and minerals when evidence is sufficient. In the case of vitamin B12 there is no UL, as there is no human data for adverse effects from high doses.
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The [European Food Safety Authority] also reviewed the safety question and reached the same conclusion as in the United States—that there was not sufficient evidence to set a UL for vitamin B12.

Also:

Vegan advocacy organizations, among others, recommend that every vegan consume B12 from either fortified foods or supplements.

My doctor told me the same. I actually had my blood checked a while ago and it was so low that I had to inject B12 with syringes. So, I would certainly recommend erring more towards potentially too much B12.

Us not having evidence for overdoses obviously does not mean that we know it to be entirely safe, but:

  • our liver is generally quite good at throwing out garbage, and
  • well, we do have crystal-clear evidence that too little B12 is bad for you.

So yeah, if you are talking about B12, I can recommend to reconsider. 🥴

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    Oh, I realize that B12 is an essential supplement for vegans, and even for many non-vegans. The thing is that I don't think that vegans need to supplement any of the other B vitamins, and from what I can tell comparing labels of fortified and non-fortified nutritional yeast, it seems that they do add other B vitamins besides B12 (random fortified label on the left and random non-fortified label on the right, comparing similar quantities of yeast):

    Some B vitamins should not be consumed in excessive quantities (mainly B3 and B6, with B9 also having some negative effects). I realize that it might take a larger amount of fortified nutritional yeast than one is likely to consume to exceed the upper limits, but personally, I would rather just avoid it altogether if I don't need it. I avoid B-complex vitamin supplements for the same reason, as those very often have massive amounts of all the B vitamins.

    There have also been studies linking excessive vitamins B6 and B12 intake with significantly increased risk for lung cancer, especially men and particularly smokers*:
    https://examine.com/faq/do-b-vitamins-increase-the-risk-of-getting-cancer/
    https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8012225/
    https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6642017/

    In conclusion, I personally prefer to take a normal, fixed amount of B12 supplement per day, and get my other B vitamins from natural sources.

    * For others reading this, please don't take this as a reason to avoid these vitamins, as having too little of them is also bad for you. Moderation is the message here.

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Yeah, okay, that makes sense. In case you didn't spot it, the fortified label you posted does literally list those B-vitamins as additional ingredients. 😅

    From what I understand, when a food is sold as 'organic' here in the EU, then it is not allowed to be fortified. (I'm not 100% certain, if it's an EU law or a German law.)
    Maybe that's also the case where you live..

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago

    I did notice that and included it in the screenshot on purpose. 😅

    That's interesting about fortified vs. organic. I don't know if there are similar rules in the US. Thanks!

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