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RoR creator sparks new “death of coding by hand” debate (blog.pragmaticengineer.com)
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The creator of Ruby on Rails, David Heinemeier Hansson, caused quite a stir last week with comments in his Rails World keynote, when he revealed that coding by hand is dead at his company, 37signals.

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[–] 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (5 children)

I learned Rails to improve my object orientation back in the day. That was the worst mistake I did to my programming career. It basically killed my career. I can only blame myself for not jumping off that train earlier but that framework made me a dumber programmer.

I was excelling and loving the craft until I went head to head with that slop.

Maybe I should make a post about it because you guys are going to get sick of me bitching about it every time his name comes up. But it does make sense why he's head over heals for ai.

Edit: I keep using "since" instead of "sense"... Edit to correct word.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    I'm interested. Did you disagree with their opinionated style or something else? My first software job used RoR but I didn't end up trapped by it, but I can confidently say I do not like Ruby

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago*

    It's been over 7 years since I finally jumped off that train (pun intended), so it's going to be difficult to boil down nit pics about it but a few things stand out.

    Yes it is very opinionated and it seems to want to constrain the programmer to its data entry style of development rather than let the programmer build with code.

    I don't think it's just because it's a framework because I've been in other frameworks (outside of Ruby), and it still felt like I was actually coding compared to ror.

    The culture felt like I am finding a gem for everything instead of actually implementing it myself.

    Like I said earlier, it felt like data entry. But could just be me.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    I like hearing complaints about object oriented, i think I'd be interested in that :p

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago

    It wasn't really oop that was the problem although it may have provided the plain for the pain as I also didn't like Java much. However, I did appreciate oop in PHP when I went back to it to build a couple sites about 7 or 8 years after bailing from that language.

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