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Reddit is killing RSS feeds and ending public API access because of AI bots (techcrunch.com)
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[–] 242 points 1 month ago* (59 children)

Reddit never gave a shit about bots. To them it's something that pumps up their active users numbers to woo their investors. They're only doing this so they can force people to view their ads that are designed to look like posts.

Who goes on Reddit nowadays anyway?

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  • [–] 24 points 1 month ago

    Seems like most people don't really care about or understand stuff like "private platforms enshittify". Certainly not enough to be inconvenienced. People will be like "that's where the good memes are" or "that's where my video games post". Heavens forbid you miss the hot memes.

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  • [–] 32 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    Unfortunately a good chunk of linux distro resources and troubleshooting, and also many hobby stuff is over there.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Yeah, and it's worse the more niche. I have no idea if Lemmy has a Fortnite community or if it's active, but I seriously doubt it has a /r/StarWarsDroidTycoon community (a Fortnite mode), which is what I care about. Or /r/FortniteLeaks

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago

    Or a specific gamepad brand sub that might have some info for a problem i face, or 3ds hacking resource. Reddit win in this because they have years of discussion on the specific subject.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    They're concerned about AI scraping. They want to sell access to users' content for training, not let the AI in for free.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    Exactly. They definitely care. They want the AI companies coughing up dough for all that data.

    Thankfully redlib still works

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  • [–] 75 points 1 month ago (39 children)

    I still go on reddit often since that's where most of the game communities I want to hear from are.

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  • [–] 41 points 1 month ago (28 children)

    Same, Lenny isn't mature enough to have some of the very niche communities yet

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  • [–] 24 points 1 month ago (11 children)

    It's not even mature enough to support some mainstream interests, like sports.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 month ago (10 children)

    no laundry community on Llemmy either....

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago (9 children)

    Lol what is this, I’m out of the loop here lol

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    so its nothing more than a community that talks about Laundry? sorry if this sounds dumb but man I had been on reddit since the 2010's and I am just now learning about this lol

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    hahaha, well consider me one of today's lucky 10,000 then. Well if you ever decide to start a dedicated laundry community, I'll subscribe. Sounds like you already have the perfect sidebar material written out already lol. Cheers!

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Honestly I dontbhave the time in my average day to moderate the community so who would moderate it? I dont have the time T-T . Others probably do. They can start it if they want and moderate it if they want .

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    That's the problem with Lemmy. It's not large enough to have active niche communities like gaming handhelds like Retroid ones, Anbernic ones, Steam Deck, etc.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    True. And it sucks.

    The way I see it is that as long as Lemmy doesnt become as amazingly terrible as reddit or faceboook or twitter there will be such communities created eventually....may take a decade or two for people to birth them and moderate them but they are almost inevitable to come into existence if the demand for such communities gets big enough.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    Can you expand a bit? What do you mean "feudal nature" and "liberal democracy"? Do you mean society as a whole or Lemmy in general?

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago

    What I don't get with this federated software, Lemmy and Mastodon. It's ripe for essentially, server level verification of identity. And I don't mean check every ID of every user.

    But like, this threat talks about game communities. Some larger company, Microsoft, maybe even Valve with Steam, could easily run an instance, and have "official" forums this way. Any anyone on any instance can subscribe and visit. But that way you know that like, I dunno, lame.microsoft/halo is the proper community for Halo. Sure, there may be others, but it can become the place of record with announcements etc.

    Same for Mastodon stuff. But that would be more for individuals. But also stuff. Like you could have movie.studio/tom.cruise and it's verification that it's the proper Tom Cruise posting. That sort of thing.

    Plus, smaller communities have less potential burden from a few large accounts loading the system down.

    Etc.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    That's the problem with changing social networks.

    People goes where people are. So it takes some major scew up from the current networks. Or a newcomer that have some killer feature everybody will want / need.

    And lemmy lacks that "killer feature"

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    Lemmy/Piefed/Etc has a killer feature (or maybe characteristic), but one that only a fraction of users find appealing. Being decentralized makes the network more resistant to many of the problems we see on Reddit and other networks, or at least, reduces their impact.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    I think what there users who mostly post and users that mostly comment (I belong to the later). Lemmy could try to bootstrap some of those communities (note: to not make it to specific) by just reposting the same posts that are posted in Reddit and see if that could increase activity.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 month ago

    I go on Reddit read-only fairly often, but these days it's quite rare that I'll post or comment. And when I do I always take the opportunity to promote the fediverse.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    You should start a community for those games. Or contribute to an existing one. Be the change

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  • [–] 6 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    I think the issue is also related to how Reddit makes money. Reddit makes money from selling advertisement. I would guess they are charging a certain fee based off subreddit activity the ads are shown in. When most of that Reddit activity is bots and fake clicks on advertisement then the company won't see the return on their investment because they thought a million people would see their ad but only 100k real people actually saw it.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    You guys see ads on reddit? I laugh in ublock

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago

    the problem with uBlock there is thst sometimes on reddit they post like 'Advertisement Posts' ...Like actual posts that are not about that niche community in anyway but are nothing more than an advertisement for a comoany and uBlack obviously cant block that.

    Ive seen it a few times in the past but its been like 4 years since Ive been on reddit so I dont know if theyve stopped doing that.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago

    Reddit at one point filtered millions of bots monthly and transparently filed public reports on the actions they had taken, even citing the source of these bot networks if a notable number of them came from places like Russia, China, Myanmar, etc.

    That was a long ass time ago, though. Before they killed off the free API access in 2022, and the 3rd party apps and accessibility layers with it.

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