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[+] -11 points 1 month ago (18 children)

I don't have the inclination to quote standard legal theory at you, it's not like I'm on crackpot territory here

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  • [–] 11 points 1 month ago (10 children)

    It's a valid question. If this were about fact finding, a judge should be more capable than random people.

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  • [–] -4 points 1 month ago (8 children)

    You, too, are welcome to go and read a Wikipedia article or textbook about why we have juries. I replied originally because the article was bad and because people don't seem to consider why you might keep stuff from a jury. Having done that, if people still disagree, they are welcome to criticise the English legal system and its ordinary justifications without getting me to copy and paste them.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago (7 children)

    Juries shouldn't only decide on what the law says and the facts, but also on their sense of justice applied to a specific case.

    No, I won't justify my answer. Go read a book

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (6 children)

    If you can't justify it, I'm obviously not going to change my mind. I've read many books and done my own thinking. I'm sure it's a huge surprise that someone could have thought about something and come to a different conclusion than you

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (5 children)

    You're welcome to go and read a Wikipedia article or textbook. I'm not going to do your work for you. Tired of explaining and justifying my position and I'll imply others are ignorant instead

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (3 children)

    You're not listening:

    I’ve read many books and done my own thinking.

    Piss off if you're not going to read what I write.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (2 children)

    You think you're the only one who reads books and does their own thinking?

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  • [–] -4 points 1 month ago (5 children)

    Go read a book. Or Wikipedia.

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  • [–] -2 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    Look mate. We clearly have differing opinions. Maybe you don't want to convince me of yours, which is fine, but if that's the case, there's not much point replying. If you do, linking me to other ways facts can be determined in legal contexts doesn't do anything to achieve that, does it? I do already know about judge-led trials, in case that wasn't obvious, and their existence doesn't support your opinion from what little of it you've shared.

    I've had about five billion replies on this, mostly more one liners that show no thought. Try and do better.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (2 children)

    That turned into an opinion pretty quick

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