This is unacceptable. And I’m sick of all the fucking workarounds to maintain basic privacy.

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[–] 3 points 1 month ago* (8 children)

No? I sure don't.

If everything gets gated behind strong attestation, then all those things become off limits to Linux

So you think everyone will just abandon free software?

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago

    You're still out to brunch I see

    You still think there are things you can do on the internet that won't be affected by this

    Are you actually naive, or are you being intentionally obtuse?

    So you think everyone will just abandon free software?

    Free software will no longer work with anything important online for participation in society. Therefore it will never take off. Therefore all consumers will be herded into cloud-streamed software on little baby walled garden tablets and fed AI answers with system prompts instructing the model not to talk about sensitive subjects. What genocide in Gaza? The Gazans are HAPPY about the ceasefire! Trumps name in the Epstien files? Turns out Adam Schiff doctored the evidence, he was never in the Epstien files! America votes for Eric to be the next President! 1000 years Trump dynasty! You'll never get tired of winning!

    Don't say anything bad though, or they'll fucking debank you

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago* (6 children)

    No? I sure don’t.

    You sure do. I don't think you quite realize the possible implications.

    So you think everyone will just abandon free software?

    Everyone? No. Ofc not. But most home users? Yes. If we ever see strong attestation gating requiring a "trusted" OS, then I expect most who use linux today would abandon it. B/c everything they want to do, won't work. But it will work with Android, IOS, Windows. Big-tech trusted platforms. Data centers and so on will be able to use Linux... by abiding the attestation reqs.

    Ofc it won't be every single last person or every single use. There are offline uses for computers too. But normal ppl want to use online services with that laptop on their desk. They want to bank. Shop. Use social media. Etc.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 month ago (5 children)

    You sure do. I don’t think you quite realize the possible implications.

    I absolutely do not. I don't think you quite know what you're talking about.

    Everyone? No. Ofc not. But most home users? Yes.

    I'm using Linux. I don't care what "most home users" do.

    But it will work with Android, IOS, Windows. Big-tech trusted platforms

    We are talking about Linux. Do you not know what Linux is?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (2 children)

    But it will work with Android, IOS, Windows. Big-tech trusted platforms

    We are talking about Linux. Do you not know what Linux is?

    At this point I begin to think you are simply a troll.

    The point was that if those OSs work for the things normal ppl want to do, and Linux doesn't, then most ppl won't consider Linux as a viable platform, and will not use it. Under that possible future.

    I’m using Linux. I don’t care what “most home users” do.

    But you asked, and I am quoting you exactly,

    So you think everyone will just abandon free software?

    My answer was to your question. It was not about YOU personally. You asked about "everyone", so I answered. You are welcome to not care what most ppl want. But the capability to deny your linux machine so much as basic network connectivity can happen. If you want to yank the network cable and use it in your house, and you are happy with that, then great.

    If you want to engage in a non-troll manner, that's fine. But I will not reply to troll type responses any further.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    At this point I begin to think you are simply a troll.

    Funny, I was just thinking the same.

    The point was that if those OSs work for the things normal ppl want to do, and Linux doesn't,

    Why wouldn't it?

    But you asked, and I am quoting you exactly,

    I did no such thing.

    It was not about YOU personally. You asked about "everyone",

    In order for me to not use it, it would have to be abandoned by everyone. That was my point.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 month ago

    The point was that if those OSs work for the things normal ppl want to do, and Linux doesn’t,

    Why wouldn’t it?

    We literally had a whole thread about it, which you refused to participate in because "my machine works for me right now"

    It's fine, whatever, if this is who people on this planet are then we've already fucking failed as a species

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