▲ 1124 ▼ "What did students do before chatgpt?" (lemmy.blahaj.zone) submitted 1 year ago by Interstellar_1@lemmy.blahaj.zone to c/curatedtumblr@sh.itjust.works 116 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[+] aeternum@lemmy.blahaj.zone 84 points 1 year ago (11 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] Klear@lemmy.world 44 points 1 year ago (3 children) It's called git gudding now. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Valmond@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (2 children) git -f gud permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Klear@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 child) Isn't that gud gitting? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] jcg@halubilo.social 2 points 1 year ago I dunno the man page lists it as git-gud permalink fedilink source parent [+] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world -8 points 1 year ago (6 children) I think using ChatGPT for learning is okay, assuming the user is actually interested in learning. If you just want to get something done, you're absolutely cheating the task at hand, and your future self. ChatGPT truly shines when you ask it follow-up questions on the thing you want to learn about and really "delve" (hate that AI ass word) into different aspects to internalize them yourself. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] lorty@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 year ago (4 children) The dangerous part is that it makes stuff up and you won't have the knowledge to tell. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] fishy@lemmy.today 8 points 1 year ago (2 children) Exactly. I had a colleague who searched for a question about a retail math formula. The LLM returned a result that was close but slightly wrong. She spent two weeks with incorrect numbers for her baseline and as a result her forecasts were all wrong. When reviewing her numbers, everything was just a little wonky so I dug into it and discovered her mistake. She was absolutely dumbfounded the "AI" even could be wrong and tried to argue that I was incorrect. Dug out my old retail math cheat sheet and showed her the correct formula. I haven't used LLM's for anything since. Gotta validate all that shit anyways, so why use it at all? These things will be fantastic for taking my order at the drive thru and in a few other applications, but if you're trying to learn from them; don't. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) I was a kid in the era of separate pocket calculators, so I've heard so much of this song and dance before. Even with deterministic tools that always work barring user error you need to have enough understanding that you can tell when something is off and to properly frame the problem permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] fishy@lemmy.today 1 point 1 year ago But that's not how they're selling LLM's. Even the common name AI is dishonest marketing bull. permalink fedilink source parent [–] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago Well, yeah, you have to have a brain and actually verify things. It's like Wikipedia circa 2004. permalink fedilink source parent [–] breecher@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago Except when it lies. Then it is the opposite of what you want it to be. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Klear@lemmy.world 44 points 1 year ago (3 children) It's called git gudding now. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Valmond@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (2 children) git -f gud permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Klear@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 child) Isn't that gud gitting? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] jcg@halubilo.social 2 points 1 year ago I dunno the man page lists it as git-gud permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (2 children) git -f gud permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Klear@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 child) Isn't that gud gitting? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] jcg@halubilo.social 2 points 1 year ago I dunno the man page lists it as git-gud permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Klear@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 child) Isn't that gud gitting? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] jcg@halubilo.social 2 points 1 year ago I dunno the man page lists it as git-gud permalink fedilink source parent
[–] jcg@halubilo.social 2 points 1 year ago I dunno the man page lists it as git-gud permalink fedilink source parent
[+] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world -8 points 1 year ago (6 children) I think using ChatGPT for learning is okay, assuming the user is actually interested in learning. If you just want to get something done, you're absolutely cheating the task at hand, and your future self. ChatGPT truly shines when you ask it follow-up questions on the thing you want to learn about and really "delve" (hate that AI ass word) into different aspects to internalize them yourself. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] lorty@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 year ago (4 children) The dangerous part is that it makes stuff up and you won't have the knowledge to tell. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] fishy@lemmy.today 8 points 1 year ago (2 children) Exactly. I had a colleague who searched for a question about a retail math formula. The LLM returned a result that was close but slightly wrong. She spent two weeks with incorrect numbers for her baseline and as a result her forecasts were all wrong. When reviewing her numbers, everything was just a little wonky so I dug into it and discovered her mistake. She was absolutely dumbfounded the "AI" even could be wrong and tried to argue that I was incorrect. Dug out my old retail math cheat sheet and showed her the correct formula. I haven't used LLM's for anything since. Gotta validate all that shit anyways, so why use it at all? These things will be fantastic for taking my order at the drive thru and in a few other applications, but if you're trying to learn from them; don't. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) I was a kid in the era of separate pocket calculators, so I've heard so much of this song and dance before. Even with deterministic tools that always work barring user error you need to have enough understanding that you can tell when something is off and to properly frame the problem permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] fishy@lemmy.today 1 point 1 year ago But that's not how they're selling LLM's. Even the common name AI is dishonest marketing bull. permalink fedilink source parent [–] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago Well, yeah, you have to have a brain and actually verify things. It's like Wikipedia circa 2004. permalink fedilink source parent [–] breecher@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago Except when it lies. Then it is the opposite of what you want it to be. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] lorty@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 year ago (4 children) The dangerous part is that it makes stuff up and you won't have the knowledge to tell. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] fishy@lemmy.today 8 points 1 year ago (2 children) Exactly. I had a colleague who searched for a question about a retail math formula. The LLM returned a result that was close but slightly wrong. She spent two weeks with incorrect numbers for her baseline and as a result her forecasts were all wrong. When reviewing her numbers, everything was just a little wonky so I dug into it and discovered her mistake. She was absolutely dumbfounded the "AI" even could be wrong and tried to argue that I was incorrect. Dug out my old retail math cheat sheet and showed her the correct formula. I haven't used LLM's for anything since. Gotta validate all that shit anyways, so why use it at all? These things will be fantastic for taking my order at the drive thru and in a few other applications, but if you're trying to learn from them; don't. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) I was a kid in the era of separate pocket calculators, so I've heard so much of this song and dance before. Even with deterministic tools that always work barring user error you need to have enough understanding that you can tell when something is off and to properly frame the problem permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] fishy@lemmy.today 1 point 1 year ago But that's not how they're selling LLM's. Even the common name AI is dishonest marketing bull. permalink fedilink source parent [–] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago Well, yeah, you have to have a brain and actually verify things. It's like Wikipedia circa 2004. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] fishy@lemmy.today 8 points 1 year ago (2 children) Exactly. I had a colleague who searched for a question about a retail math formula. The LLM returned a result that was close but slightly wrong. She spent two weeks with incorrect numbers for her baseline and as a result her forecasts were all wrong. When reviewing her numbers, everything was just a little wonky so I dug into it and discovered her mistake. She was absolutely dumbfounded the "AI" even could be wrong and tried to argue that I was incorrect. Dug out my old retail math cheat sheet and showed her the correct formula. I haven't used LLM's for anything since. Gotta validate all that shit anyways, so why use it at all? These things will be fantastic for taking my order at the drive thru and in a few other applications, but if you're trying to learn from them; don't. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) I was a kid in the era of separate pocket calculators, so I've heard so much of this song and dance before. Even with deterministic tools that always work barring user error you need to have enough understanding that you can tell when something is off and to properly frame the problem permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] fishy@lemmy.today 1 point 1 year ago But that's not how they're selling LLM's. Even the common name AI is dishonest marketing bull. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) I was a kid in the era of separate pocket calculators, so I've heard so much of this song and dance before. Even with deterministic tools that always work barring user error you need to have enough understanding that you can tell when something is off and to properly frame the problem permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] fishy@lemmy.today 1 point 1 year ago But that's not how they're selling LLM's. Even the common name AI is dishonest marketing bull. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] fishy@lemmy.today 1 point 1 year ago But that's not how they're selling LLM's. Even the common name AI is dishonest marketing bull. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago Well, yeah, you have to have a brain and actually verify things. It's like Wikipedia circa 2004. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] breecher@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago Except when it lies. Then it is the opposite of what you want it to be. permalink fedilink source parent