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I never expected to see $10/gallon (lemmy.world)
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[–] 2 points 1 month ago (19 children)

And given how efficient are US trucks in gas consumption, a gallon is... how much in terms of mileage? 5 miles or so? How much does it cost you with those prices just to go to the gas station to fill up?

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  • [–] 10 points 1 month ago (9 children)

    If I remember right its about 15 MPG for most diesel us trucks. So 15 miles, in real numbers about 24 kms. That is not enough to get me to the nearest city from my house. Like 30 kms to even a tim hortens. That is $10 (usd so more here) just to go to town....

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago (8 children)

    I was exaggerating with the 5 MPG, I didn't expect it to be so damn low as 15 MPG. That's... Converting to lt/km that would be around 15lt per 100 kms! Damn... Not sure about average consumptions in Europe, since I drive an electric and never had an ICE but I think the average goes to around 5-6lt per 100km so that's 3 times as much. Wow...

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (7 children)

    I have been told that 14 mpgs is really good for a truck (my 1986 c20 does a bit better and its a v8 and carboratred). They are not little guys, and in this part of Canada you have more trucks on the road then just about any other type, most with one person in them and nothing in the back. At least I try to only use my truck when needing to haul yard waste or something to much for my little car, but next door has 3 trucks for 2 people.

    7 to 8 Lt per 100km is about normal here (depending on what you drive) in non trucks but for years people here relate success with a big truck.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    I guess that's what happens when you have cheap-ass gas prices. Efficiency is just not needed. Well, if anything, this will help people understand how convenient is an EV. I drive 60km a day for my commute and it costs me 2.4€ of electricity, and that's considering Italy's electricity prices are not among the lowest in Europe. With such a beast here, I'd go for around 15-16€ a day. Yeah, not happening ever, lol

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago

    Oh it was needed here, but activly pushed into clown world numbers of inefficientcies. We have had cars that are very good on gas, now we have cars that say they are good on gas but use 3x what a car from the past would do. Its all marketing over function now and our auto industry is effectively dead due to it, people are (shocker) not buying enough $100,000 trucks that cost $10 in gas to go to the store.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (3 children)

    Well if you are using it for work at least its just a business expense so its easier to justify the cost of something large. For recreational use it would be stupid.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    I never got this idea. If you have a business then having waste in that business is going to hurt just as much if it was your personal truck. Most places don't need a truck and those that do tend to get vans instead (think plumbers). And at least here the biggest ones are just for recreation since they have to pull their 1500sq foot 5th wheel.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Depends what someone is doing. Van or flatbed truck having different use cases.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago

    Yes, but (at least here) there a not that many flatbed uses for the silly small bed large trucks that are all over. Lots of 1 ton and over flatbed trucks doing work, a few welders like those trucks for work. The massive trucks with tiny beds are not really meant to be work anything, they are just large passenger vehicles.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    I asked a co-worker about his mileage in his 2023 GMC diesel truck, and he was getting around 20 mpg highway.

    I had a Ford F150 with a gasoline engine, and it wa good for maybe 17 mpg highway. The nearest gas station that can sell me gas that isn't old or full of water (hooray for rural living) is about 8 miles away. I think that is $1.83 to drive it to the gas station, based on the $3.89 price I saw this morning.

    Of course I have to be smug and point out that I get around 4.5 miles per kwh now.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    My mileage is roughly the same, between 13 to 14 kwh per 100km. I pay 0.35€ per kw so that puts my 100km at around 4.75€. Right now in italy that's around 2lt of diesel. You won't get 100km from 2lt of diesel. Ever. And it's only going to get worse.

    I've been mocked since I first got an EV almost 5 years ago because I didn't have a realcarβ„’ so now I am sorry but I'm gonna point how much does it cost me to drive my car every time someone brings out the gas prices at work.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

    Ive only been driving an EV for two months. The sneers have started to taper off the last two weeks.

    My electric at home is about 8Β’ per kwh. From my driveway to work and back is almost exactly 62 miles which is close to 100 km. If I assume Im not perfect and I only get 4 miles per kwh, I use 15.5 kwh commuting each day which comes to $1.24. Diesel was 5.99/gallon this morning, some gentle touches on my calculator tell me that $1.24 comes out to .787 liters of diesel fuel. Which as you point out isn't going to take you far.

    Wish I could work from home.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago

    So, I currently have a Chevy Silverado 6.0 liter gas truck. 4 full doors, long bed. I tow a 37ft bumper pull rv with it full time, around 9000lbs loaded. Truck bed is full, maybe another 1200lbs.

    I get 7mpg average, and that’s across the country a few times. Unloaded maybe 10mpg. I run up to about 80mph when towing where possible.

    My Dodge Ram before it with a 12v Cummins diesel got 14mpg loaded similarly, and about 18-20mpg unloaded (I kept about 500lbs of wood in the bed all the time so it was never really empty).

    It’s about $130 to fill up my Chevy right now with current gas prices. We had to do it about six times to move up north this summer for work.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    Meanwhile EVs are costing that much per 250 miles or so...

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    I want to get an EV but, until we make more money or one of our cars breaks down, my wife and I are stuck with ICE.

    Shouldn't be too much longer though. My wife drives a Jeep, the emo of cars. It was born to die.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago

    I don't have a place to charge, but my wife and I are in agreement that our next car will be electric. I'm hoping that's a few years off still so we can move somewhere with charging first. But yeah, it just doesn't make sense to buy gas cars anymore

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago

    I’m trying to figure out how to afford EVs for my kids and it’s not happening πŸ™. They have no way to charge at home, but still …. Also wondering if I can mod a slate truck to look sort of Jeep like (I’m realistic about my chances of going off road intentionally)

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