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The Trick To Stop Speeding Drivers Is Actually More Green Lights (www.thedrive.com)
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[–] 17 points 2 months ago* (9 children)

...or what if we actually punish people who pilot their two-ton death machines irresponsibly?

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  • [–] 24 points 2 months ago* (8 children)

    Remember, though: if the punishment is a fine, then to the rich, it's not a punishment. It's a price.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 months ago (5 children)

    You don't even have to be rich-rich. Car-related fines are a joke.

    I was thinking more along the lines of losing one's license.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago* (5 children)

    Indeed, though I would suggest that, for more significant infractions, state seizure of the vehicle (as the tool used to commit the crime) should be an option, with proceeds from vehicle sales by the state going to safety infrastructure and perhaps a victim restitution fund.

    People are very attached to their cars, so that's a punishment, and they won't be needing it anymore without a license!

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  • [–] 8 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    state seizure of the vehicle

    Absolutely not if you’re talking the US. We already have civil forfeiture which is abused far to easily and frequently.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago* (2 children)

    Precisely. I'm saying that, if we already have it anyway, we ought to regulate it. If we can abolish it, great. If not, then it should be heavily regulated, with the funds earmarked for things that aren't enforcement-related, so that there's less perverse incentive for law enforcement to just grab things for shits, giggles and greed. The government can and will seize your home for nonpayment of taxes, so it's not like this doesn't already happen outside of civil asset forfeiture. It's just a matter of how well-regulated the system is, and what steps are taken to reduce perverse incentives.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Forgive me if I doubt it could be appropriately regulated and properly applied in the US.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago*

    In the current situation? Absolutely. I'm fairly certain it would take a violent uprising, then a constitutional convention, to actually count the US as a country with laws. It's full, mask-off kakistocratic corpofascism.

    There are, however, individual states and jurisdictions which could implement it well with reform.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 months ago (-1 children)

    Punishment doesn’t prevent behavior that already happened and is usually missed. Road modifications help every time.

    My town has a major road that was one of the most infuriating and dangerous in town. It was two lanes in each direction, constant jockeying for position or to make the light or to get around a turning car.

    All it took was repainting. Now it’s one lane in each direction with turning lanes. There is no jockeying for position since it’s only one lane. But turning cars are no longer blocking so no infuriating stop and go. They even coordinated the lights.

    Now that road is slower, calmer, no road rage or angry drivers and everyone gets through in less time

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