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When the holy one left the Fediverse, my faith in Dog was broken (lemmy.world)
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[–] 6 points 2 months ago (4 children)

On content: they were saying that bringing up Lysenkoism and saying communist societies didn't actively WANT to have famines was the equivalent of Holocaust Denial (which I don't think it is, the Nazis were pretty intentional in doing the Jewish Holocaust).

On context: Yes this was part of their work moderating a TankieJerk community.

I don't really get people who are bothered by Tankies, during a time of rightwing fascism. Tankies are such a small minority that they're pretty much irrelevant and can be easily avoided or ignored as inconsequential.

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  • [–] 10 points 2 months ago

    On content: they were saying that bringing up Lysenkoism and saying communist societies didn’t actively WANT to have famines was the equivalent of Holocaust Denial (which I don’t think it is, the Nazis were pretty intentional in doing the Jewish Holocaust).

    That's a cute way of saying "I was downplaying the Holodomor and Great Chinese Famine by spreading misinformation that doesn't even align with the basic timeline of events and got banned for it"

    I don’t really get people who are bothered by Tankies, during a time of rightwing fascism. Tankies are such a small minority that they’re pretty much irrelevant and can be easily avoided or ignored as inconsequential.

    In the US, sure.

    On the Fediverse, where red fash are a significant proportion and regularly spread misinformation about, say, historical genocides, or fucking North Korea?

    On the Fediverse, they're a problem. Hence why it was important for me to speak up on the problem on the Fediverse, and not, say, when I was on Reddit.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Sure, bc the mantra of bOtH sIdEs SaMe had nothing to do with Trump winning the last USA election. (/s) Granted that the Threadiverse itself is wholly inconsequential though.

    If you listen to pretty much anyone arguing about us over on Reddit, explaining why they gave this place a legit try for multiple years but left and vehemently refuse to ever consider coming back, it's primarily tankies that they themselves cite as the reason why they left.

    Though it is unclear if they realized that hexbears aren't actually tankies so much as a more pure form of troll that believes in nothing except dunking on people. It does, however, somewhat go with the territory of denying factual reality in preference to the echo chamber consensus?

    Essentially in man vs. bear, people are choosing the bears, and the incels being avoided would do well to ask why that is, if we ever want to grow the Threadiverse.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Trump did more for clean energy than any democrat president! (Not /s but also not intentionally so idk what to say here)

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  • [–] -1 points 2 months ago

    I mean... , yeah. 🤪

    People couldn't stand the thought of the lying "Demoncrats" (also not "fully" /s, in the objective sense that while I would not make that choice, people sometimes do call them that, plus also they legit do such all the time, like "Biden isn't senile" - yeah right!), and while they did not so much like Trump himself personally, they did take a gamble and rolled the dice a second time, playing (almost literally, if you know what I mean) a game of Russian Roulette, just on the off chance that even a stopped watch might do better twice a day than Kamala.

    The liberals really gotta work on branding. "You should eat your vegetables" only works for so many people, leaving vast swaths of centrists to prefer to simply not vote.

    I will say this about the Republicans: recently they are better at the game of politicking, with all that that entails. Yes they will eventually eat their own and tear it all down, but in the meantime they pitch a bigly tent (using the best words - this one phrase is /s! 😜) and welcome anyone to vote for them to get into power, and then they only betray them after that, not preemptively as Biden did by lying about his merely being sick. The art of compromise and many other skills seem to have been lost, and both sides are the same at least in one respect: both have been primarily relying upon the badness of the other side to win, less so any inherent goodness in their own. (But it did not need to be this way - Democrats set up HUGE infrastructure projects, and made gains in health - not so much healthcare itself obviously but like COVID policies - etc. These stories should have been TOLD more often and harder, but instead everyone focused on Biden's dementia, which tbf Trump did legit hide better than him, at the time.)

    So tankies aren't even lying (all the time), as there is a hidden truth behind that - and then more lies behind that, but after that... maybe some truth again? Except I can't quite wrap my brain around the alternative fact that Russia is not an expansionist empire that invaded Ukraine, and instead the poor victim of aggressive Ukraine that somehow invaded them? Yeah, nevermind, even though a clock is correct twice a day, that does not mean that I should bother even so much as glancing at it if I want to know the time! 😂

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