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[–] 7 points 2 months ago (15 children)

Believing that North Korea's working class is starving because of Western sanctions instead of an authoritarian dictatorship is the result of Chinese propaganda.

Like look at the timeline of the sanctions. They're a hell of a lot more recent than the starving.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago (14 children)

    The sanctions go back to the war, the famine after the war were due to having most of they buildings destroyed and 20% of their population killed. They restarted after the USSR fell and they lost their biggest trading partner, same story with Cuba.

    What's the alternative story here, that Kim Jong Un eats all the food? That being "aUtHoRiTaRiAn" means he would rather rule over a starving populace than buy fuel for the tractors?

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (12 children)

    Yes, the fan man had nothing to do with multiple failed 5-year plans because implementing a command economy is historically such a successful endeavor.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago (11 children)

    What the soviets and cpc have accomplished with central planning is undeniably remarkable.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 months ago* (9 children)

    They couldn't accomplish it without mass human rights abuses. It's nothing to be proud of and they're certainly not a role model worth emulating.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 months ago (8 children)

    What's a role model worth emulating

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  • [–] 0 points 2 months ago (7 children)

    Use your imagination. There's no need to accept disgusting disregard for human life, for any purpose. It makes no sense to act like they did something good. Stop idolizing the human predators of humans.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (6 children)

    Well we have two competing large economic systems at the moment. I don't really have to use my imagination.

    It's weird we only talk about "human rights abuses" when talking about designated bad countries. I'm sure that's just a coincidence.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 months ago (5 children)

    It’s weird we only talk about “human rights abuses” when talking about designated bad countries

    Is "we" in the room with us right now? I'm me, not we.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (4 children)

    We are literally discussing them right now.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 months ago* (3 children)

    No, I don't remember mentioning a specific country. In fact I recall condemning human rights abuses "for any purpose", which means I don't care who does it or why, it's wrong anyway.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (2 children)

    They couldn't accomplish it without mass human rights abuses. It's nothing to be proud of and they're certainly not a role model worth emulating.

    You said this in response to the point that planned economies in the USSR and China have accomplished quite a lot.

    So you said this in particular referring to those two countries.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 months ago* (1 child)

    And those countries are guilty as described. However, they are not special in this regard. That's why I don't specify.

    Edit: Ohhh, I get it. You're a tanky and you're mad because I said something mean about your dictatorship of choice. Lol. Adios.

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