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Amazon's New AI Data Center Is So Enormous That It Appears It Will Become the Largest Single Source of Pollution in the United States (futurism.com)
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[–] 3 points 2 months ago (14 children)

Almost every day I have a fight with my gf over her Amazon account. I told her we can not proceed with a meaningful relationship if she doesn't cancel it. Am I the crazy one?

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  • [–] 37 points 2 months ago (9 children)

    Yes. The effect of one person's passive boycott is nothing. If you're serious enough to sabotage your own relationships over this, then perhaps focus instead on a greater boycott campaign, or actively pushing for legislation to actually make a difference.

    Don't cut off your nose to spite your face.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 months ago* (7 children)

    The effect of one person’s passive boycott is nothing.

    This is some centrist capitalism-enabling shit. The sum of our individual efforts can amount to great things. Boycotts have been a great tool against fascism throughout history.

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  • [–] 13 points 2 months ago* (6 children)

    @Waffelmeister@lemmy.world is actually boycotting his relationship. I do not think it is wise for him to try to force her into submission rather than leading by a lifetime of example proving that one can get by just fine without Amazon and inspiring rather than coercing her to leave.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Honestly, this is more of a values disparity.

    If two people have different values in some places in life, its normal to have adversity.

    Just because it's a capitalist themed value, doesnt mean this person is being irrational imo.

    Mostly agree with you, leading by example is the way. I am amazon free, but my fucking goddamn husband, absolutely pays for prime for television (and almost never watches much there, very annoying) but, I have gotten him to change his buying habits, and he doesnt buy off amazon no where near what he used to, its like once a year now. Ive have been successful in teaching him to at least think about where he spends money, and who it supports. It took some time sure.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago

    Fair. What I mean is that there's surely got to be some sort of compromise. For example, if other members of his family are also Prime-subscribing, could they join to be an actual Prime family entity, and thereby share the cost and reduce the total amount of $ being sent to the giant?

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

    Let's remind ourselves this is a company actively supporting genocide.

    force her into submission

    coercing her to leave

    You conclude there's forcing and coercion from 2 sentences? I just see two people with apparently incompatible moral values about consumption. I don't see any forcing or coercion. I think it's a very valid reason. If he has or is willing to put patience into the relationship is also a decision he has to take.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (2 children)

    Okay, so could you name alternate companies to move to that have definitely spoken against Zion? I'm certainly not pro-Amazon and am aware of the chokehold that AWS has on the entire Internet, but it sure seems there are fewer alts than we would hope. Also, how is an ultimatum not forcing?

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago* (1 child)

    Why do I have to name alternatives for you? I also find manipulative that the alternatives you seek from me MUST have definitely spoken against Zionist entity, when just not participating would be enough.

    I think stating your boundaries about who you want to be with is not forcing. Would be forcing if his gf was dependable on him or there was emotional manipulation involved...

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago

    What I mean is that isn't it hard to prove whether a company actually is supporting Israel unless they've been outright about being against it? I'm not trying to test you; I'm literally curious about what some of these are.

    Also, is what he's doing not emotional manipulation? "Ultimatum" or not, the exact wording doesn't matter; if he really cares about continuing the relationship, He should be actively helping her find alternatives to the products that she would normally buy from Amazon and even link them to her to make it easy to move. He's putting the work on her; that's lazy and rude and controlling when he doesn't even want to help her help the switch. Does that make sense?

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  • [–] 7 points 2 months ago* (1 child)

    Imho there are different aspects to this: are they binge buying useless stuff on Amazon constantly, feeding into mindless consumerism? are there more ethical alternatives available?

    If someone uses Amazon for something they can't find anywhere else, or that the alternative costs so much more they can't afford it, then I understand. If they are just a mindless consumer and they do nothing to change that, they lose my respect.

    At the same time, if that is a reason you are considering to break up with someone, imo it tells your relationship is not very solid to start with.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

    If they are just a mindless consumer and they do nothing to change that, they lose my respect.

    god I am like this too. I met a woman (on disability no less, so cash strapped) who ordered so much goddamn shit from temu, it was taking over her house. She then flipped on the latest reality "love" based TV show, and I did not make a friend that day. Got the hell outta there whew

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