The main important thing that these other maps alternatives don't do good enough for me is to have enough live-ish updates of changing conditions and status of things happening in an erea, this is only something thst I think will happen if it hits a critical mass like with Google maps and its ability to know stuff from googling.

I don't think I'm gonna step back to what are just fancier looking paper maps on my phone just because I don't like google. an alternative to me needs to replace Google's situational awareness, not merely its navigation.

Is there a way to make this happen? Like to me Google maps feels like a geography based portal into Google search that happens to also do the useful thing of navigation, I'd want some way for these maps alternatives to have information in them compiled from search indexes somehow.

I know thst exists already to some extent but its been wrong often enough in my experience to not trust it so this is why I think there needs to be some sort of fancier backend system for federating networks effects from internet resources if thst makes sense. Like if there was more incentives for contributions to happen from things where this infornation is more likely to change such as in buildings and traffic intersections, guerrilla data logging anyone? Haha