▲ 848 ▼ Any day now (discuss.online) submitted 3 months ago by VetOfTheSeas@discuss.online to c/whitepeopletwitter@sh.itjust.works 63 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] cabillaud@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 months ago (5 children) Why not both? It's too much to ask? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Goodeye8@piefed.social 5 points 3 months ago (3 children) This has me torn. On the one hand 8k a year just to have a vacation sounds a lot. On the other hand, should we really be accepting concessions on our lives when we know the main reason we need to do monetary concessions is because the fruits of our labor get siphoned from us? Maybe I'm just too poor to comprehend that 8k vacations should be the norm. Or maybe 8k is too much. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world -3 points 3 months ago* (2 children) you should buy stock and not go on vacation and then in 10 years you can go on all the vacations you want. delayed gratification is a hell of a way to build wealth. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Goodeye8@piefed.social 5 points 3 months ago (1 child) So you read my comment and thought it would be good advice to tell me to do the very thing that siphons money away from the workers? I don't want to build wealth, I want to live a fulfilling life and I want everyone else to live a fulfilling life. My fulfillment shouldn't come at the expense of others. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world -2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) yeah, dude keep refusing to help yourself and then wonder why in 10 years you're still struggling... newsflash, you can't built a fulfilling life without wealth. and you can't build other people's lives for them. and guess what, your very existence comes at the expense of ever blade of grass you've stepped on, every chicken you ate, and etc. that's what life itself is. your little philosophy here basically concludes with 'kill yourself' but that too... will come at the expense of others. but sure, sit around and don't invest and daydream for the next decade and in 10 years you will still have nothing. permalink fedilink source parent [–] TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world -1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) because you can't afford both. you have to choose your priorities. you can choose to vacation, or save for a home. but we live in an economy where a lot of people are choose to vacation and then sit around being bitter they can't afford a home that they want when they spend all that money on something else. oh, and further, they also don't support new construction because they think new construction is bad and drives prices up and if they can't have that new home nobody else should... which further restricts housing supply and drives up prices. the point is humans are stupid and make bad choices, both short term, and long term, and they refuse to make better choices that would improve their lives because emotional gratification in the here and now is always more important to them. FWIW, I grew up in a family who never took vacations but we were able to own a home, though it was rural and my dad commuted 3-4 hours a day to his job. If I point this out to people today, they basically lose their shit and say they'd rather never own a home if it meant they had to stop going on vacations multiple times per year, let alone live so far away from their job to find affordable housing. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Goodeye8@piefed.social 5 points 3 months ago (3 children) This has me torn. On the one hand 8k a year just to have a vacation sounds a lot. On the other hand, should we really be accepting concessions on our lives when we know the main reason we need to do monetary concessions is because the fruits of our labor get siphoned from us? Maybe I'm just too poor to comprehend that 8k vacations should be the norm. Or maybe 8k is too much. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world -3 points 3 months ago* (2 children) you should buy stock and not go on vacation and then in 10 years you can go on all the vacations you want. delayed gratification is a hell of a way to build wealth. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Goodeye8@piefed.social 5 points 3 months ago (1 child) So you read my comment and thought it would be good advice to tell me to do the very thing that siphons money away from the workers? I don't want to build wealth, I want to live a fulfilling life and I want everyone else to live a fulfilling life. My fulfillment shouldn't come at the expense of others. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world -2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) yeah, dude keep refusing to help yourself and then wonder why in 10 years you're still struggling... newsflash, you can't built a fulfilling life without wealth. and you can't build other people's lives for them. and guess what, your very existence comes at the expense of ever blade of grass you've stepped on, every chicken you ate, and etc. that's what life itself is. your little philosophy here basically concludes with 'kill yourself' but that too... will come at the expense of others. but sure, sit around and don't invest and daydream for the next decade and in 10 years you will still have nothing. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world -3 points 3 months ago* (2 children) you should buy stock and not go on vacation and then in 10 years you can go on all the vacations you want. delayed gratification is a hell of a way to build wealth. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Goodeye8@piefed.social 5 points 3 months ago (1 child) So you read my comment and thought it would be good advice to tell me to do the very thing that siphons money away from the workers? I don't want to build wealth, I want to live a fulfilling life and I want everyone else to live a fulfilling life. My fulfillment shouldn't come at the expense of others. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world -2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) yeah, dude keep refusing to help yourself and then wonder why in 10 years you're still struggling... newsflash, you can't built a fulfilling life without wealth. and you can't build other people's lives for them. and guess what, your very existence comes at the expense of ever blade of grass you've stepped on, every chicken you ate, and etc. that's what life itself is. your little philosophy here basically concludes with 'kill yourself' but that too... will come at the expense of others. but sure, sit around and don't invest and daydream for the next decade and in 10 years you will still have nothing. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Goodeye8@piefed.social 5 points 3 months ago (1 child) So you read my comment and thought it would be good advice to tell me to do the very thing that siphons money away from the workers? I don't want to build wealth, I want to live a fulfilling life and I want everyone else to live a fulfilling life. My fulfillment shouldn't come at the expense of others. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world -2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) yeah, dude keep refusing to help yourself and then wonder why in 10 years you're still struggling... newsflash, you can't built a fulfilling life without wealth. and you can't build other people's lives for them. and guess what, your very existence comes at the expense of ever blade of grass you've stepped on, every chicken you ate, and etc. that's what life itself is. your little philosophy here basically concludes with 'kill yourself' but that too... will come at the expense of others. but sure, sit around and don't invest and daydream for the next decade and in 10 years you will still have nothing. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world -2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) yeah, dude keep refusing to help yourself and then wonder why in 10 years you're still struggling... newsflash, you can't built a fulfilling life without wealth. and you can't build other people's lives for them. and guess what, your very existence comes at the expense of ever blade of grass you've stepped on, every chicken you ate, and etc. that's what life itself is. your little philosophy here basically concludes with 'kill yourself' but that too... will come at the expense of others. but sure, sit around and don't invest and daydream for the next decade and in 10 years you will still have nothing. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world -1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) because you can't afford both. you have to choose your priorities. you can choose to vacation, or save for a home. but we live in an economy where a lot of people are choose to vacation and then sit around being bitter they can't afford a home that they want when they spend all that money on something else. oh, and further, they also don't support new construction because they think new construction is bad and drives prices up and if they can't have that new home nobody else should... which further restricts housing supply and drives up prices. the point is humans are stupid and make bad choices, both short term, and long term, and they refuse to make better choices that would improve their lives because emotional gratification in the here and now is always more important to them. FWIW, I grew up in a family who never took vacations but we were able to own a home, though it was rural and my dad commuted 3-4 hours a day to his job. If I point this out to people today, they basically lose their shit and say they'd rather never own a home if it meant they had to stop going on vacations multiple times per year, let alone live so far away from their job to find affordable housing. permalink fedilink source parent
