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[–] 134 points 2 months ago (34 children)

I am confused. Why is this even up for debate? Why are we even putting up with people trying to debate this?

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  • [–] -4 points 2 months ago (7 children)

    Doctors record as a way to take notes, it's possible this guy is just an idiot. Probably a pervert though.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

    Probably an idiot, possibly a pervert.

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  • [–] -2 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Because doctor. Superior species.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    What's the difference between God and a doctor? God doesn't think he's a doctor.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago

    An old chestnut and still just as true, although I originally heard it about surgeons. There's a 19th century joke that goes "the surgery was a success but the patient died". The focus on showing off technique to colleagues instead of being useful is part of the human condition, I suppose.

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  • [+] -16 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    Because that's how an open society with healthy exchanges of views works. Why are we even putting up with people trying to enforce their own insecurities on everyone else?

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago* (2 children)

    Or: Because the overton window got moved far enough and privacy now is a privilege of wealth.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago* (1 child)

    Overton is an observation, not a force of influence. It isn't why things are. We have no choice but to investigate and review whatever beliefs and values are within that window at any given time, given our ever changing world. To respond to an idea or belief with violence or censorship, instead of discussion, is to encourage tyranny. Bad ideas should be opposed by good ideas, not silenced due to some ppls discomfort with parts of our reality.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago

    Maybe i am a bit infuriated of the salami tactics, making privacy transgressions more and more frequent. Taking pictures after asking for permission is one thing, documenting an operation where only the operation area is in view might also be necessary.

    Infringing on patients privacy should be necessity-based, not by default. And the collected data should be protected as good as possible, not using some big data megacorps (that make their money off advertising or influencing people).

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  • [+] -16 points 2 months ago (16 children)

    Something something first amendment.

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  • [–] 36 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    First amendment only protects you from being persecuted by the government. Being ostracized, shamed and unfortunately attacked in the middle of the night by anonomous people isn't against the first amendment.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    But they are allowed to debate.

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  • [–] 16 points 2 months ago

    Depends on the debate. The government can't stop them from debating. If you host a debate though, without any government affiliation, you're not forced to let them attend. In the same way, if you own a forum on the internet, you can silence anyone you want to. The literal ONLY thing the first amendment protects against, is government persecution for speech. It has nothing whatsoever to do with how people react to said speech. Just because someone cries "Muh first amendment!" doesn't mean you actually have to respect them. You can shame them, silence them, ostracise them. Put up billboards telling people how fucking insane they are. Take out an ad in the local newspaper to display their bullshit in an attempt to shame them into submission, tell them to go fuck themselves. If they're in your house, you can toss them out. YOU can do whatever you want. YOU can't breach the first amendment, only the government can.

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  • [–] 11 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    Bullshit, voyeurism is a felony in most states. Invading someone's privacy isn't covered by the first fucking amendment you dolt.

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  • [+] -10 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    I answered why it's still debatable. Debating is free speech.

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  • [–] -1 points 2 months ago (5 children)

    It's why you can't stop the debate. It's not illegal to be wrong.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    You don’t have a first amendment right to debate stuff here.

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  • [+] -10 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    I do find it funny how much people hate our society's fundamental rights and want to limit them as much as possible. AIN'T NO FUCKIN FREE SPEECH HERE. WE HATE THAT SHIT.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago

    Fundamental rights? You don't actually have a fundamental right to free speech, nobody has to respect that, only the US government as it pertains to their constitution. None of this applies to the first amendment because IT'S NOT THE US GOVT TRYING TO RESTRICT IT. You're in a world-wide forum. Do you think anyone in another country gives a shit what your government thinks about your US rights? Say what you want, but literally nobody has to care what you think

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