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[–] 1 point 2 months ago (3 children)

AI knows how to permeate the infrastructure in unique ways.

What does this mean? You shared an image that touches on the very simple basic stuff of how federation works.

An admin does not have access to every single instance, which this would indirectly entail.

What would indirectly entail? I feel like we're having different conversations here.

The scary part is how much of this could be "unlocked" by someone who knows what they're doing.

What is it that would be unlocked? Were you unaware of the basics of federation? I assure you none of this is a surprise to most technical users of the fediverse (which is most of us).

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 2 months ago (2 children)

    What would indirectly entail? I feel like we’re having different conversations here.

    Each part of the fediverse, including each URL of "Lemmy", is managed by different admins. It's called the fediverse because it's federated. It's decentralized. You can interact with each part from the one you have an account on, but the admins cannot affect whatever happens in them.

    In order for it to be decentralized, each part, called an "instance", needs both software to be able to connect to other instances (think of how you can email people from other email sites) and the capacity to be connected to. This means each instance needs the same code, and once a federated continuum of sites has been made, it's difficult to change the code that is distributed between people who want to make instances to participate in the fediverse as admins, even though the fediverse apparently can also connect you to places on the deep web and even places that are technically not even on the web.

    This, in turn, is also why ban evaders often justify (and technically can justify) ban evasion on the fediverse more easily than on sites that are standalone communities.

    But even more relevant to what I'm saying, it (and other properties of the fediverse) also makes it so that any cracks or imperfections in the programming are forced to stay that way, as well as why AI comes into play here. The fediverse, by its nature, is so vast and so intricate with the different ways each part connect to one another that an AI is the preferred way for a troll to find said cracks. The caveat, in return, is that you need to be an expert in guiding an AI to comprehend what it's doing (as in, at the time of what I've been saying, you would need to have had an ultra-precise way of explaining to it what you wanted to do), with only a minority of AI even being able to sleuth around whatever links you hand-feed it. It's in part a very famous issue of guardrails that make it this way. People like Sam Altman and Elon Musk have often explained having to increase how elaborate their AI's self-imposed rules are in response to people exploring new elaborate ways to get around them, like a technological game of who can piss higher on the wall.

    Enter this very pesky individual in question who has done just that. Through a week of work, they have mapped out every crevice of the fediverse. One of these (and the most alarming of which) is that, while removed content was never fully gone from the fediverse (hence why you can undelete comments), you originally had to stalk the whole fediverse manually to get answers, which might take a month. Now they have acquired the path to simply asking AI to find interactions people regret or want gone.

    The archive was from a post of theirs that was in a recent document.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (1 child)

    Yes, I am perfectly aware of how the fediverse works. I was asking for a clarification on what you were referring to, not a technical explanation.

    One of these (and the most alarming of which) is that, while removed content was never fully gone from the fediverse (hence why you can undelete comments), you originally had to stalk the whole fediverse manually to get answers, which might take a month.

    It's not a 'crevice', it's how the system was designed to work. Any technically literate person can set up an instance in an hour and have unlimited access to any information on the fediverse short of user info. Nobody's stalking the whole fediverse, anybody with the inclination will just self host.

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 2 months ago

    But a part of my point is not everyone sets up an instance. I mean the commoners. They have the issues I am describing. That's when it becomes the "crevice" issue I was referring to. And I guess it depends on what you mean by "stalking", but I proved my point about what they were doing on the outset.

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