▲ 92 ▼ €2.99 or €3.49? Proton VPN's Pricing Test Exposed (thecybersecguru.com) submitted 3 months ago by UnLocoPoco@lemmy.world to c/technology@lemmy.world removed 40 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] tabular@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago (5 children) Why is "randomized" what makes it ethical? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] daychilde@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago Companies change prices all the time. Is that unethical? All that happens in an A/B test is that different people get different prices, and the company sees how many people buy at which price. There is no one single ethical price for anything. Thanks to capitalism, you charge what the market can bear. And it's not like we're talking something like a million dollars vs a dollar. The amounts are both pretty clearly within a reasonable amount. permalink fedilink source parent [–] mannycalavera@feddit.uk 0 points 3 months ago (3 children) Randomised is not what makes it ethical. It's what makes the AB test statistically valid such that you can test your hypothesis. Ethical would be to run the test, gauge the click through rate to checkout to find a winner, then for all those you charged the higher price to give them a discount code such that everyone gets the product at the same price. What you're testing is the click through rate of a price advertised further up the funnel. Maybe later you can say ok the rates didn't drop off people seem ok with the higher price. Higher price for all. Or not as the AB test would reveal. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] tabular@lemmy.world 1 point 3 months ago (2 children) Getting the same price in the end is great and all but I can't say being tested on without my prior knowledge or consent seems ethical. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mannycalavera@feddit.uk 1 point 3 months ago That kinda depends on where in the world you are. In Europe we have strong protections such that users need to consent to that type of testing (remember those annoying cookie banners? well what do you think they're for 😉). But if you're in the US... well, my apologies. permalink fedilink source parent [–] daychilde@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago Well, regardless, it's a part of our capitalistic system, and clearly people here on Lemmy are unaware of how business works. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] daychilde@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago Companies change prices all the time. Is that unethical? All that happens in an A/B test is that different people get different prices, and the company sees how many people buy at which price. There is no one single ethical price for anything. Thanks to capitalism, you charge what the market can bear. And it's not like we're talking something like a million dollars vs a dollar. The amounts are both pretty clearly within a reasonable amount. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] mannycalavera@feddit.uk 0 points 3 months ago (3 children) Randomised is not what makes it ethical. It's what makes the AB test statistically valid such that you can test your hypothesis. Ethical would be to run the test, gauge the click through rate to checkout to find a winner, then for all those you charged the higher price to give them a discount code such that everyone gets the product at the same price. What you're testing is the click through rate of a price advertised further up the funnel. Maybe later you can say ok the rates didn't drop off people seem ok with the higher price. Higher price for all. Or not as the AB test would reveal. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] tabular@lemmy.world 1 point 3 months ago (2 children) Getting the same price in the end is great and all but I can't say being tested on without my prior knowledge or consent seems ethical. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mannycalavera@feddit.uk 1 point 3 months ago That kinda depends on where in the world you are. In Europe we have strong protections such that users need to consent to that type of testing (remember those annoying cookie banners? well what do you think they're for 😉). But if you're in the US... well, my apologies. permalink fedilink source parent [–] daychilde@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago Well, regardless, it's a part of our capitalistic system, and clearly people here on Lemmy are unaware of how business works. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] tabular@lemmy.world 1 point 3 months ago (2 children) Getting the same price in the end is great and all but I can't say being tested on without my prior knowledge or consent seems ethical. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mannycalavera@feddit.uk 1 point 3 months ago That kinda depends on where in the world you are. In Europe we have strong protections such that users need to consent to that type of testing (remember those annoying cookie banners? well what do you think they're for 😉). But if you're in the US... well, my apologies. permalink fedilink source parent [–] daychilde@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago Well, regardless, it's a part of our capitalistic system, and clearly people here on Lemmy are unaware of how business works. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] mannycalavera@feddit.uk 1 point 3 months ago That kinda depends on where in the world you are. In Europe we have strong protections such that users need to consent to that type of testing (remember those annoying cookie banners? well what do you think they're for 😉). But if you're in the US... well, my apologies. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] daychilde@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago Well, regardless, it's a part of our capitalistic system, and clearly people here on Lemmy are unaware of how business works. permalink fedilink source parent