“There has been more of a transition where parents are supporting their adult children for longer,” she said. “The data do show that more young adult men live with their parents than women. The wealth transfer from older generations to younger generations is part of that story.”

And then there are the partners. “Almost everybody you talk to will have a story” about supporting an unemployed man, Ullrich said, adding that what’s changed isn’t the dynamic itself, but the fact that it no longer carries the stigma it once did. The stay-at-home boyfriend, once a punchline, is now a statistically significant labor market phenomenon.

A landmark paper published in the Journal of Political Economy, first circulated through the National Bureau of Economic Research, found that roughly 70% of the hours young men aren’t working are being spent on video games and recreational computer use. The economists calculated that improvements in gaming technology since 2004 alone can explain nearly half the increase in young men’s leisure hours.

“I think that’s part of the story — the basement story,” Ullrich said, in reference to a trope of young men playing video games in their parent’s basement.

The opioid epidemic compounded it, hitting non-college-educated men especially hard. And critically, men, compared to women, largely don’t qualify for government assistance programs like SNAP or TANF without a disability, meaning when they exit the workforce, the financial burden falls on whoever is closest to them.

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[+] -8 points 3 months ago* (34 children)

Yeah it turns out when you modify a system to where young men are unnaturally and unfairly suppressed compared to everyone else, more and more of them wisen up and stop bothering to try and play a rigged game simply accepting the alternative and making peace with it (also known as 'no longer bothering to care') as said suppression grows, how strange...!

And before you guys cry about the truth (since to half of you modern crazies 'all men are evil because 'they just are'' ofc), it's almost like when women were unnaturally and unfairly suppressed in our history, none of them cared to claw their way through a workforce 2x+ as difficult for them either and just accepted the easier option of staying at home instead of also playing a rigged game...!

But hurr durr deyre just lazy and wanna play vidya gaemz in mamma's house XD it must be the video games guyz surely, have all your free time with 50% of an entry level salary or lose all your free time for 100% of the same salary, where neither comes remotely close to you EVER affording a home, hmmm which option guys I dunno

I do well at my current job and it pays well but if I was just coming up to finishing high school nowadays I'd probably default to saying fuck this shit too and not even bother trying either

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  • [–] 8 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    Please tell me more about how you're the real victim here

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  • [+] -9 points 3 months ago* (2 children)

    What?

    I do well at my current job and it pays well

    I'm not the victim the younger men born after me are, can you read okay?

    Perhaps get off this extremist leftist hivemind website and have a look around, why not talk to some young men IRL too it'll help you understand real quick, if you get your 'accurate information' from this website you'll be fucked and permanently living in delusion

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  • [–] 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

    Or, you could educate yourself on theory to find out why the system isn't working for anyone but the rich, which is why people educated in critical thinking almost always end up further left than they were. I'll give you a hand. Start with Adam Smith. The Theory of Moral Sentiments and Wealth of Nations are the basis for collectivist thought that works far better than authoritarian or capitalist theory has worked for about 2 centuries.

    Funny that. The moment that Adam "The Father of Capitalism" Smith, predicted would happen and cause late stage capitalism, actually happened in the mid 1840's to mid 1850's, the privileged philosophers and thinkers of the time came up with a more equitable system of economics that Adam Smith openly said was needed to transition away from the despotism and authoritarianism that capitalism will naturally breed. They named it communism based on the communes that The Christ told his followers to form and be a part of ≈2000 years previous.

    I'm 45 years old, and almost retired. Next year baby! I have seen absolutely zero evidence that Horse and Sparrow economics works despite the entire capitalist world forcing that system on the world for the last 150 years. In fact I have seen multiple studies that show that the current capitalist system of economics that every single country worldwide is forced to participate in, leads to the utter destruction of both our planet and our species. Transferring away from the inherently violent and greedy system may allow us enough time to actually figure out how to spread off this planet and make us, as a species, somewhat unkillable. Even with natural disaters that would wipe out every dead planet we colonized and terraformed, within a 50 to 150 light year radius.

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  • [–] [S] 7 points 3 months ago (29 children)

    And before you guys cry about the truth (since to half of you modern crazies ‘all men are evil because ‘they just are’’ ofc),

    You clearly didn't read our comments here then. We're supportive of men.

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    I originally made it for all the news sources the other major journalism coms kept removing. Now it's just a lax news community.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    Originally dude is gender neutral. A dude is someone that knows nothing about living on a working farm or ranch. Hence the tourist traps called Dude Ranches that were popular in the early to mid 20th century.

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    I made the comment for the young'uns. One of the interesting things I discovered in Debate Club was that people watching the debate are swayed by calm rational arguments, and the crowd will side with the person that makes the most sense to them. In modern times many people have an inherent, though it may be tenuous, sense of logical arguments vs fallacies and deflection. This worked just as well, if not better, when I was accosted by proselytizing Christians on the sidewalk in downtown of multiple cities.

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 3 months ago (7 children)

    The other users here are well known for our feminism and for pushback from some lemmings because of it.

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  • [+] -8 points 3 months ago* (6 children)

    Why are you so afraid to interact with me directly lmfao weirdest users on this site I swear

    Yeah I'm getting owned by a bunch of emotional lemmings for sure bro faaak they got me good

    Now you're insta downvoting me HAHA fucking emotions off the charts, cry more buddy

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    The only one around here with feelings and not facts is you dude. You cite no sources, and just allow your feelings to create your comments, thereby allowing you to fall into multiple logical fallacies. You're no Spock or Data, no matter what lies you tell yourself.

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  • [–] [S] 3 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    Maybe because you just announced how much you hate it here?

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  • [+] -6 points 3 months ago* (15 children)

    Nah this is my last day on this shithole website and you would not imagine the specimens I have interacted with on this website with my 2 accounts and how they've all collectively behaved to me, couldn't care less anymore but if you're normal and sane yourself then good for you pal, I would advise you to run from this place asap before you get slowly mindfucked by them and also end up in fantasy land yourself

    Had people unironically to the point of refusing to agree with me on the sky being blue lmao, emotional AF community of lemmings

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  • [–] 4 points 3 months ago

    You just described what MSMSM has done to you. This place is a bastion of intelligence and research, you just don't care about actual knowledge, just your feelings over facts.

    We don't need or want you here if this is the type of behavior you are going to engage in and exhibit. We welcome debate. We do not welcome lies and logical fallicies, which are all the tools you have in your toolkit.

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  • [–] [S] 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (13 children)

    It's like any online forum type space. You gotta find your niche if you're going to have a good time here.

    I'm sorry your experience has been frustrating so far.

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  • [–] -4 points 3 months ago (12 children)

    That's alright I'm a big boy I can take the internet words, just a waste of time to continue on this irrelevant softie platform so fuck it eh I'll go out with a bang on here why not

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago (10 children)

    You're no big boy. You can't take a single amount of facts overriding your feelings, so you run away like the kindergatener that you never actually learned how to be. You don't know the basic rules of society, which is why you have been so easily duped by the liars, thieves, and pedophiles, that run and own everything, and are scared now that we now KNOW, YOU/THEY AREN'T LIKE US. You support pedos, that means you're a wannabe pedo.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago (9 children)

    I am swayed by your calm, rational argument.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago* (8 children)

    Rational? yes. Calm and unemotional? not exactly. I swore an oath to Humanity, not just The Constitution to defend them both from all imminent threats, both domestic and foreign.

    Watching the people who are supposed to be in charge of things tearing down the fundamental bedrocks of the oldest democracy, and one of the oldest countries, on Earth that still exists in its original/current form, makes me want to start using the fourth box of democracy against the Epstien Class.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago (7 children)

    makes me want to start using the fourth box of democracy against the Epstein Class.

    You and me, both. Outside, I'm rational. Inside, I'm a swarm of murder hornets with my sights set on those perpetuating this hellscape. It didn't have to be this way.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (6 children)

    Well I sincerely hope that you, like I was, were trained by the military to engage, eliminate, and evaporate.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago (5 children)

    I am a USAF veteran, good call. I'm just much better with logistics and planning.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago* (4 children)

    Former Navy Nuclear Power Program Electronics Technician Instructor here. They issued me S.E.A.L. bodyguards. I learned everything I could from any special forces operater I could. Including signing up for voluntary Army Ranger Paratrooper training that was available on a neighboring base. Also any explosives training I could acquire. When you're a Navy Captain, you kinda get to write your own orders, provided you have a bullshit excuse to be taking that training, and the proper level of clearance.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    Dude, that is so fucking cool. For real. Also, your writing style comes across as succinct and articulate so I pegged you for teaching or intelligence work. Very nice to meet you and thank you for your service and to the training of highly skilled nuclear personnel!

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    To be totally honest, nuclear reactors are some of the most mundane and routine things on earth, until they aren't. My job was literally to train people to make that job as boring and routine as possible, and to follow The Book written by Admiral Rickover. Cool doesn't exactly apply to the job. Responsible is more accurate.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    My dad is a retired civilian nuclear trainer. Wrote the lessons and simulator scenarios. Was always neat to see his work area. All the technology in the world and it still makes me laugh to think it's all just to make a spot of tea by boiling water!

    Oh, and if I'm not misremembering the above comment chain, you are set to retire soon, yes? Early congratulations if so!

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    I'm set to retire in the civilian world, not the military. I left the Navy after 6 years the moment I had my GI Bill and college money. I do know for a fact that they really wanted me back, and offered almost triple my military pay to get me to be an instructor as a civilian.

    I wasn't allowed to protest as a military personnel. That's something I have need doing since I was 6-7 years old on my own because I have severe ADD, and ODD.

    I'm retiring as a computer geek and farmer. I build custom Linux PC towers, and grow marijuana, though I'm looking into buying a few thousand acres of California Desert to turn into a 10 GW power station so we have no more excuses to take Diablo Canyon offline.

    As I said sarcastically in another thread, "I was very disappointed to find out that my PVE setup uses a mini boiler and turbine to make electricity."

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