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Several US schools to install pepper-spraying drones to respond to school shootings (www.theguardian.com)
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[–] 13 points 3 months ago (14 children)

Because there's no political or popular will to do anything about it. You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink; that doesn't mean water is useless.

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  • [–] 8 points 3 months ago (8 children)

    Seems to me that it does in fact mean that that excuse for gun proliferation is pretty useless.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago* (7 children)

    Well that's one hell of a non-sequitur. To make a sweeping generalization, it's not the guns' fault that Americans are cowards.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago (6 children)

    A majority of US gun owners like what the government is doing, how does that make them cowards?

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago* (5 children)

    I'm talking about Americans that don't like what the government is doing (there's a lot to criticise the American right for, but unwilling to act they are not). There's plenty of gun ownership among American liberals.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago (4 children)

    So they are supposed to kill the majority of Americans who have guns that like what the government is doing?

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    The majority of Americans do not like what the government is doing, as seen from its approval rating, but also armed revolution usually doesn't happen by killing away everyone who disagrees with you.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago* (2 children)

    The majority of Americans with guns do like what the government is doing though. Gun ownership is well over double for Republicans and they currently strongly support ICE and many other abusive domestic policies.

    Please point out an armed revolution that wasn't just wealthy people using humans as pawns in their struggle for control. I can name only one and that was Haiti.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago* (1 child)

    The majority of Americans with guns do like what the government is doing though. Gun ownership is well over double for Republicans and they currently strongly support ICE and many other abusive domestic policies.

    Uh... therefore?

    Please point out an armed revolution that wasn't just wealthy people using humans as pawns in their struggle for control.

    I'm not sure how that's relevant here. Most revolutions tend to be about wealthy people using humans as pawns in their struggle for control, but also: Yemen, Syria, Iran, Cuba, Russia, China, Mexico, Ireland*2, decolonization in general. There's also two Frances (1830, 1848) but those are more iffy.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago

    I was just restating what I said already for clarification since that is what we were discussing.

    When people talk armed revolution the track record is pretty much shit for human rights. Mythological thinking that an armed rebellion is going to solve our problem is problematic to say the least.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    So then it's not the guns that make resistance possible it's popular will.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 months ago

    I mean obviously, but with popular will you'll want everything to give your cause an edge—hence the guns. It's possible to have popular will and still fail, so factors that give the rebellion (or just plain old resistance, see: Black Panthers) an edge are going to be necessary. In recent history, the Houthis definitely benefited from having guns when they rebelled against the then-government.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    There's something very wrong with your water. It's killing a lot of children.

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