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Codeberg Bans All Cryptocurrency-Related Projects (www.codeberg.org)
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Is there no git hosting service left that isn't pushing censorship and fascism? I think I should just start self-hosting at this point.

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[–] 18 points 3 months ago (9 children)

I don't know if the word 'censorship' is the one I'd choose, but assuming codeberg is committing 'censorship', what's the problem? Private organisations do that all the time. It's only illegal for the government. Have you never had a wage job? Every job training I've been through included multiple types of self censorship. The difference between it and government censorship is there's competition in the private market, you can just leave the job if you don't want to put up with it.

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  • [–] -1 points 3 months ago (8 children)

    I mean you are right I am just expressing my disappointment with Codeberg and prevailing sentiments on the left.

    I think censorship or the blocking of illicit actitivy like fraudulent activity or pump and dump schemes is valid but this proposal has blanket banned an entire field of endeavor.

    And I question if the point of it is truely about protecting people or defining in-groups and out-groups and promoting ideological conformism.

    Maybe my sarcastic response is an overreaction as responses here seem to indicate but in my opinion its more telling that asking us to self reflect on what the contemporary left is evidently such a taboo.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 months ago

    There's no ingroup or outgroup here. Cryptocurrency isn't people, and even cryptocurrency developers are perfectly able to host other projects there.

    Community standards exist everywhere. Censorship implies the power to silence people, and in no way is Codeberg able to prevent people from sharing their project widely. They are an intentionally small platform supporting an open internet. This is no different than their long lived restriction on proprietary software. Which is again no different from Debian restricting what goes on their repos.

    You can run proprietary cryptocurrency software on your own computer with both Debian and Forgejo (Codeberg's forge software), but neither project will host it for you.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (6 children)

    And I question if the point of it is truely about protecting people or defining in-groups and out-groups and promoting ideological conformism.

    My point is, who cares if this is part of the community's reasoning? All communities are defined by common beliefs.

    its more telling that asking us to self reflect on what the contemporary left is evidently such a taboo.

    Why do you feel like you can just drop that in without any explanation? Not everything falls into a left-right binary. Open discussions require both sides to be reasonable, you need to provide reasons for your claims, otherwise it's just noise.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (5 children)

    Well, I am part of that community and although it is the majority sentiment it is not something that is shared by everyone.

    When I criticize the left I am criticizing from within that group. If you read my comment again you will find it is the replies from others who frame things as a left-right binary. By being of the left and being critical of the left and having a dissenting opinion I am negating that binary.

    I think this decision is poorly thought out and authoritarian and I do not like that in our communities.

    It is my sentiment, feeling and experience of an increasing demand for ideological conformity, politics of vanity and authoritarian behaviour on the left.

    I could do some research for you and provide examples to backup this belief.

    Or rather, let us be reasonable. When I critic the left for authoritarianism do you find it to be heedless agitation? When I speak of narcissism and self-aggrandizing behaviour do you yourself see no such evidence of this?

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (4 children)

    you will find it is the replies from others who frame things as a left-right binary.

    You sure? Like, absolutely sure? Did you check?

    All I asked was if you felt it was justified to assume everyone knows why you believe this is leftist. Do you consider yourself a reasonable person? That's more important to me than anything else you said at the moment.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (3 children)

    Yes I am sure. The initial two replies characterise my take as nazi and conservative. They eqaute my perspective as inherently existing within a binary.

    Codeberg is a left project in my eyes. Are you of a different opinion? It is an community based non-profit organisation which serves as an alternative for corporate based entities like github.

    You initially replied with a tone which implied you were going to be the one to have the reasoned take on things but then take a ridiculing tone when I reply in good faith.

    You are free to disagree but you don't have to be a dick.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (2 children)

    This you? First comment in this thread?

    I'm so glad we've had this rising moral grandstanding authortarianism on the left in the past 10 years.

    I didn't ask why you believed anticrypto is leftist, I solely asked of you were arguing in good faith, why you believed you were justified asserting things without evidence. I don't really care about anything else you say until you prove to me you are a reasonable person. Everything else is just noise.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (1 child)

    If you are gonna be close minded and disregard my attempts to address your criticisms as "noise" and fail to engage with any of the questions I have raised, which was a good faith attempt to explore the issue at hand and discover what we both believe then I'm afraid I would no longer like to continue the discussion.

    Why not try and prove to yourself that you are reasonable person. Have a go at that.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago

    You've provided no reason, yet again, for your claim. Am I being unreasonable? Is there no reason you can think of why I might doubt your sincerity?

    Random assertions are not valid arguments. I'm not even saying you're right or wrong, you are providing no value to the discussion.

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