Interesting. For me, driving is only ever fun on a wide open, flat, straight road, with beautiful scenery, and where you can get away with speeding because there's no one else around. Anything short of that and driving ranges from "unpleasant" to "hell on earth".

I love driving cars as much as I love wrenching on them. That is to say it's among my favorite things when I want to, and I want to stick a red hot poker in my eyes when I have to.

I used to think that way. I live in rural Japan now so basically have to have one to do anything useful (especially buying farm stuff). But I lived without one for like 6 years, had I not moved so rural and begun to farm, I probably would still not have one.

Far too fun.

Wait till you get a good mtb ebike. In summers, I don't feel like using a car.