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[+] -28 points 3 months ago* (29 children)

If you think it's a slur then you dom't understand the meaning of the term. Or how argentinians use it, at least. No more facts for now though. Thanks for asking!

Oh yeah, one more thing, it's funny how you're just taken aback by the term by can't even refute it or understand your own mental simplicity. I needed a laugh today :)

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  • [+] 15 points 3 months ago (28 children)
  • [+] -8 points 3 months ago (27 children)

    I honestly don't know how you could be more mistaken. Given your condition, allow me to explain.

    Gallego can be used simply to say that a person is from spain (regardless of where in spain). It is also colloquially used when someone does something very dumb or fails to understand something very simple. It's directed at the action, not the person and even though it is related to spain, it's not because we hat spain. Is it weird that we don't consider it offensive or a slur? Yeah. Is it the only "insult" or whatever that we use like that? Nope. The word "negro" is also used in so many ways that I can't keep count.

    In your specific case, you seem to fail to grasp the concept of people travelling to different countries without losing ther nationality. I clearly said that I watched in rome and spaniards barely celebrated. It's obvious that I was referring to actual spaniards watching it in rome. But you keep repeating "rome isn't spain"? Are you trying to tell me that you know first grade geography or just that you lack any sort of reading comprehension skills?

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  • [–] 10 points 3 months ago (10 children)

    The word “negro” is also used in so many ways that I can’t keep count.

    This is awesome he just can't stop digging. My guy, you're doubling down on top of your mistake of not understanding that calling someone a "Gallego" as an insult is offensive to people.

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  • [+] -6 points 3 months ago (9 children)

    My guy, it's offensive because you don't get it. It's fine. I don't care. I'll keep using it and you'll keep crying about it.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 months ago (8 children)

    I am 100% sure that you will keep using it, you and people like you lack the self analysis skills to be able to change your behaviour. The reason you think it's inoffensive is that you stay in your bubble of 'Tanos and haven't spent more than half an hour with an afrodescendent person.

    I would love for you to have a black Argentinian friend that you have long conversations with and bring up that word in multiple contexts and see how he reacts. The problem is that you lack the skills to be able to process their discomfort.

    Meanwhile, I'd love for you to explain what a "chiste de gallego" is like without making it seem like nothing more than an excuse to punch down on people from Spain.

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  • [–] -4 points 3 months ago (7 children)

    I've spent more than half an hour with people from all around the world and have not had a single issue with any of them.

    I would love for you to have a black Argentinian friend

    In case you didn't know, there aren't virtually any people with black skin (unless they recently immigrated) precisely because we're not racist. Most, if not all, argentinians are of "mixed" race.

    I'd love for you to explain what a "chiste de gallego" is like

    Sorry for making jokes about the people that killed indigenous people of south america, robbed them and were pushed out barely over 200 years ago. My deepest apologies for your thin skin.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 months ago (6 children)

    black people? What black people?

    It is a tragedy what the Spaniards did to the natives.

    Uuuh-huh.

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  • [–] -4 points 3 months ago (5 children)

    The natives of Argentina were not black. Africans were brought to the region as slaves and Argentina received a very small number of them. As soon as we could, when we got rid of spain anf wrote our constitution, slavery was abolished.

    No one looks down or discriminates black people in argentina. Don't believe random lies you read on the internet. Also, read a book before spouting nonsense about a country you know nothing about.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (4 children)

    The natives of Argentina were not black. Africans were brought to the region as slaves and Argentina received a very small number of them.

    As soon as we could, when we got rid of spain anf wrote our constitution, slavery was abolished.

    I wasn't saying that was the case. I was saying that you are faking sympathy with the natives while being discriminatory towards the black argentinians.

    There is a problem with argentinian attitudes towards black people, which requires self reflection. Here's some documentation of recent perspectives and incidents :

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/may/28/argentina-european-self-image-racist-incidents-brazil

    One thing to note :

    Although slavery was abolished in Argentina in 1853, the descendants of enslaved Africans – and their influence on the country’s culture, from tango to language and food – remain.

    While the constitution was written in 1853, your liberation was much earlier.

    Independence from Spain: 9 July 1816

    Also, here's another article on the topic :

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/may/31/argentina-white-european-racism-history

    Delgado and Gomes point to recent studies of population surveys and genetics that paint a far different picture from Argentina’s accepted history: one recent study concluded that up to 9% of today’s Argentinians may have ancestry from Africa.

    In 1778, Africans and Afro-descendants made up 37% of the population of what is now Argentina, according to a census by its Spanish colonialist rulers. In some major provinces the proportion was more than 50%.

    That number did not drop significantly after independence from Spain in 1816: Afro-descendants accounted for 30% of the population of Buenos Aires for decades after independence. But after that, the number is unknown, because Argentina’s census bureau stopped collecting racial information.

    “Census data was manipulated to erase us first from the statistics – and then from the history books,” says Gomes. “From the end of the 19th century the state meticulously began to make us invisible to present Argentina as homogeneous and of European descent.”

    Argentina’s “whitening process” has been studied in depth by US academic Erika Edwards in her book Hiding in Plain Sight, published last year by University of Alabama Press.

    “The whitening project was a successful endeavor in terms of the erasure of blackness,” said Edwards. “The idea that somebody could be the descendant of a slave is just not there.”

    “It’s time for Argentinians to take their black grandmother out of the closet,” said Delgado.

    Also, from the first article, here's something that corroborates a video that went viral a while back when an Itallian descendant report interviewed, in a Vox Populi segment, a person from the North of Argentina. She asked how , as a foreigner , the Northerner viewed argentina/buenos aires, to which the interviewee responded that they were Argentinian, and the interviewer proceeded to say "not really, you're more of a Bolivian".

    (Edit: i misremembered some things: https://youtu.be/QEiZT3u_wEk )

    Pita said: “An Aymara descendant born in the north of Argentina is treated as Bolivian, a Mapuche born in Argentine Patagonia is treated as Chilean; and an African-descendant from Buenos Aires is treated as Uruguayan or Brazilian, because the only thing considered truly Argentine is whiteness.”

    You guys have problems with racism in your country and culture, and need to do some self reflection to process these ideas in order to become better people by not claiming ethnically charged insults are just for "dark humour, you wouldn't get it".

    Then maybe you can win the world cup a few more times instead of the few that you got, you know, by cheating.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    you are faking sympathy with the natives while being discriminatory towards the black argentinians.

    When did I do that????? XD Another major difference between other countries and us that there are no "black" or any other type of argentinians. We're all argentinians. Period.

    I'm not even going to bother proving how bad your spurces are and how misguided your view is. It simply doesn't make sense. You will still believe what you want to believe. Are there some racist people in Argentina? Sure. Aren't there some shitty people in literally the entire world? Of course. Does that mean that the entire world population is shitty?

    Make of that what you will. But don't project your own racial issues onto other people that have nothing to do with them.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

    I’m not even going to bother proving how bad your spurces are and how misguided your view is. It simply doesn’t make sense.

    The guardian is a fairly reputable newspaper, reporting on actual research done by Argentinians and books written by Argentinians, to add background information to an actual event that really took place.

    Not sure why you think the source is bad. Did you want it from "La Cronica" or something?

    Fatal accident in Flores, it has caused the deaths of two people and a Bolivian

    EDIT : How about from Tal Cual Gente? I know THAT'S a reliable source of Argentinian news.

    WE ARE WINNING

    Just for good measure, even though it was a mistake, I need to share the reliable, objective news coverage from argentinas' finest news organisation, tal cual.

    YOU CAN HELP US WIN THE WAR.
    HOW IT IS
    The secret history of Thatcher, 57 years old, British Prime Minister
    PIRATE
    WITCH
    AND ASSASSIN

    GUILTY

    EDIT2 : Adding translations

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  • [–] 0 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    Thatcher commited war crimes and was a despicable human being. You don't seem to have fallen too far from the tree.

    It's funny how people accuse an entire nation of doing things that literally never happened and then proceed to nonchalantly do those very same things they complained about.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

    What's your argument here? I made fun of Tal Cual being unreliable while defending the journalistic integrity of the guardian, and instead of showing me why your point holds water with reasons why the guardian is an unreliable source, you are reminding me that Thatcher was an arsehole.

    Yeah. Thatcher was an arsehole. I firsthand saw the ruins she left in an entire REGION of a country. I know she is. I fucking find it hilarious that Tal Cual pre-photoshop photoshopped her.

    But that doesn't have any bearing on the state of journalism of the guardian, or why the argentinian people writing articles and books about the race issues in argentina are not telling the truth. The incidents being reported on happened. You are meant to accept the facts and try to improve yourself.

    This whole comment section is basically the world dunking on you for having no self awareness, and we are having fun making fun of you. You could take this as an opportunity to reflect, but you're not.

    Fuck it, have something from the horses mouth and see if you can understand it like that .

    GUILLE AQUINO Sketch | ARGENTINO VOL. 2 Ft. YAYO

    https://youtu.be/fy3zCAg6rg4?t=9

    EDIT : Is your argument that Thatcher was a literal Witch?

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  • [+] 4 points 3 months ago (15 children)
  • [–] -5 points 3 months ago (14 children)

    It is derogatory but not an insult. It's what we call a "gastada". The type of thing you say to someone being too naive, dumb, etc. If it gets to you that much, I don't know what to say. It's not that bad, get over it.

    Literally typed that once.

    You need to say it more than once to sound obtuse?

    I don’t know what to say to this.

    There's nothing you can say. Yout tried the shoe on and it was the perfect size. Nationality matched and everything. Sometimes stereotypes exist for a reason xD

    Are you OK?

    Wonderful. Thanks for asking :)

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  • [+] 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (13 children)
  • [–] -2 points 3 months ago* (12 children)

    So it is derogatory, got it.

    It's our type of humour. You don't get it, it's fine. We even insult ourselves sometimes. If it offends you it's your problem, not mine.

    "And why am I even need to read your own messages to you?" Did you get an aneurysm? I think I understood what you meant. And yeah, instead of saying that you "kept" saying that, I should've said that you "still" said it. Making that type of remark only implies that you're pretty obtuse. Do things always have to be explicitly laid out for you to understand it? Way to keep a legacy alive xD

    There’s this joke we tell in Spain: how did the Argentinian commit suicide? They jumped from the top of their own ego.

    Oh nooooo they're telling me I have self-esteem. How will I ever sleep??? We know that one and we laugh about it too.

    Let me know when you can back that ego up, instead of outsourcing it to a team full of little whiny bitches who can barely kick a ball. In the meantime, enjoy being second.

    How are argentinians the "whining bitches" if we're not the ones rolling on the ground, complaining about referees and celebrating other nation's accomplishments? I'm damn proud of us being 2nd and I can't explain why because you've made it clear that you'll never understand it.

    Also, "barely kick a ball"? We're the tesm with the most goals in the tournament and the best matches too (even if we sucked and spain shone last night). Celebrate your victory, have fun, but don't be delusional. It will bite you in the ass.

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  • [+] 3 points 3 months ago (5 children)
  • [–] -2 points 3 months ago (4 children)

    Pretty hard not to be illusioned with a team that won as much as ours.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    You literally lost the finals.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    But we made it there 3 times out of the last 4, and that's an incredible and wonderful thing. If you're only proud of your team when they win then I feel sorry for you.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    But we made it there 3 times out of the last 4,

    Cuantas copas tenes de estes torneos? 3? O uno? Porque uds encantan tirar "cuantas copas tenes" y en este dicho, no hay "cuantas finales alcanzaban? Estoy seguro que tu equipo es muy bueno y juega con honor y destreza". Es "Cuantas copas tenes". Si te falta ganar la copa, no es la victora...

    Con este tipo de punto de visto.

    Asi, porteño, toma. Toma el merecido y aprende algo. Comparte la leccion con los demas porteños asi pueden crecer como gente y mejorar argentina.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 months ago

    Que decia xD No soy de buenos aires y no me parece que decir "no ganaste las 3 finales sea un insulto cuando viene de alguien que probablemente no jugo ninguna.

    Cuantas copas tenes de estes torneos?

    Seguramente mas que vos, a menos que seas aleman, brasilero o italiano.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago (5 children)

    It’s our type of humour. You don’t get it, it’s fine.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago (4 children)

    Libreals? Wtf? Is all politics us politics now? There are waaaay more colours than just b&w.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    This is a meme that makes fun of edgelords who throws excuses like "dark humour" to say things that are unfunny and offensive, instead of actual dark humour, which is funny and offensive.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (2 children)

    Except that this is not "dark" humour and doesn't offend anyone who understands the sentiment?

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